July 1st, 2013

California Police Arrest Man for Video Recording, then Kill his Dog (Updated III) 907

By Carlos Miller

In one of the most shocking videos I’ve seen since launching this blog six years, ago, Hawthorne police shot and killed a dog while arresting the dog’s owner for video recording them from a half-block away on a public sidewalk.

Several cops were standing in front of a house halfway down the block, apparently to make an arrest over the weekend, while a man walking his dog was video recording them from the corner.

A group of other citizens were recording from across the street and captured the entire exchange, including the arrest of the man and killing of his dog.

At 2:09 in the video, the man starts walking to his car when he realizes the cop are going to walk towards him because he was standing there recording.

After he puts his dog in the car, he walks back towards the cops, turns around and allows himself to be handcuffed, even though he had not broken any law at any time during the video.

Makes one wonder what would have happened had he just gotten into his car and driven away.

As he is being handcuffed by two cops, the dog begins barking and eventually jumps out the window.

At 3:09, the dog is out of the car and running towards the cop.

At 3:23, a cop shoots the dog four times. The dog staggers and dies.

Last year, Hawthorne police jailed a man for four days for recording a traffic stop from a public sidewalk.

Call the Hawthorne Police Department: Call (310) 675-4443 or  (310) 349-2700.

Press Information Officer:
Lieutenant Scott Swain
(310) 349-2835
email: kswain@cityofhawthorne.org

UPDATE: The man who was arrested, Leon Rosby, was charged with obstructing officers. He already has a pending lawsuit against the Hawthorne Police Department and believes that is why he was confronted.

The name of his Rottweiler was Max.

According to CBS:

Attorney Michael Gulden said his client Leon Rosby was watching and taking video of the Hawthorne SWAT team when police claimed Rosby was obstructing officers during the barricade.

Rosby is seen in video footage walking with the dog – which appeared to be a Rottweiler – near several patrol cars to capture the scene on his phone.

After an exchange with nearby officers, Rosby is heard saying the words, “civil rights violation” before returning the dog to his vehicle.

As officers begin to proceed toward Rosby, he also begins walking in the direction of the officers and is then taken into custody without any further exchange.

According to the Daily Breeze, Rosby was arrested because he had refused to turn down his car radio, which can be heard in the video.

The shooting occurred about 7:15 p.m. Sunday at 137th Street and Jefferson Avenue about two hours after police surrounded a house where a gunman had robbed two people inside. A crowd of spectators gathered in response to the large police response, which included several police cars and the department’s Bearcat armored vehicle.

As some, including resident Gabriel Martinez, aimed their cellphones at the scene to record it, Rosby drove up in his rented black Mazda. Swain said Rosby stopped in the intersection with music blaring from his windows. Officers told him to turn down the music because they were trying to hear what was happening down the street. Rosby pulled forward, parked and got out with his dog, but left the music still playing loudly.

“It’s distracting the officers,” Swain said. “It’s interfering with what they are able to hear. It’s not just a party call. It’s an armed robbery call. The officers need to hear what’s going on with the people being called out of the residence. That music in his car is bleeding over and it’s distracting them.”

It still doesn’t make sense considering Rosby walked back to his car, placed his dog inside, then walked back to the cops and allowed himself to be arrested.

Why didn’t he just turn down the music when he placed the dog back inside?

If he was so defiant about the music, wouldn’t he have been more defiant about getting arrested?

Here is a video recorded before the above video from when Rosby pulled up to the scene, parked his car and stepped out to begin recording.


Hawthorne Cops Shoot Dog


UPDATE II: The Hawthorne Police Department posted the following press release on its Facebook page, claiming they had to arrest Rosby because his “distracting music (more the individual’s vehicle), and his intentional walking within close proximity to armed officers, while holding an 80-pound Rottweiller on a long leash-line” adding that other citizens were recording from a “safe distance and compliant to officers’ regards.”

So I think it’s obvious they were more concerned about his physical whereabouts than his music, most likely because he had a much clearer angle of what was taking place than the citizens standing on the other corner who had absolutely no visibility of what was actually taking place in front of the house with the armed robbers.

Furthermore, it is routine police protocol to establish a perimeter with police ribbon if they are that insistent in marking boundaries.

But we see no marked perimeter. All we see is Rosby standing a half-block away from the nearest officer holding a cell phone in the air to record police.


Hawthorne police press release

Hawthorne police press release2

UPDATE III: Here is another video from a different angle of the shooting.


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  • Jake G

    Cops are nothing more than violent sociopaths who need to be put down. This officer deserves the same treatment he showed that poor dog.

    • Upyurs

      So true. The dog owner should receive a huge payout from the criminals in uniform and then be given the option of shooting the pig 4 times, and to death if he likes. That’s fair; this pig is a cold blooded detriment to society; lock him up or shoot him to protect the rest of us.

      • gimpbully

        Payout’s just gonna come from the taxpayer.

        • Guest

          yup they just take money away from public schools and homeless shelters and not one penny from the police department

        • AwwwYeah

          Well, maybe after enough, the taxpayer will do something about the rogue police they hired.

          • Hugh Jorgan

            I’m pretty sure that the police departments are independent corporations with their own public liability insurance and I’d be willing to bet that if they had to keep paying out and paying out and paying out for the same cop, that cop would eventually be considered a liability and asked to leave.

            But, for that to happen, many, many more people need to learn the simple steps necessary to bring lawsuits against these ass-holes. If nobody bothers to sue the phukkers, they’ll just keep doing what they’re doing with no consequences.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            They are not “corporations.”

          • Jon Quimbly

            Hawthorne, CA, is a municipal corporation.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            The city is. The department isn’t.

          • Jon Quimbly

            The PD is a separate entity from the city? Interesting. My only reference is knowing a pair of lawyers who worked defending both NYC and NYPD against lawsuits. I was left with the impression that that city’s PD was under the corporation, fiscally anyways. Varies by jurisdiction I’m sure.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            No, he was claiming that the police departments were separate corporations.

            The department is a division of the city, a political sub-division of the state. In some states those are known as municipal corporations, primarily due to the common law. To sue or be sued, you have to fit into a category that allows that.

            For example, in a purely common law system, a partnership cannot be sued as an entity, each individual partner must be sued, and joined in the same action. Corporations have the capability to sue and be sued, so some states created municipal corporations to allow that.

            Unlike what the sovereign citizen idiots believe, it is not a corporation in the business sense.

          • karen murray

            sovereign-new word u learned in class & whipped it out. u really do have a cop/god complex to call some1 or several some1s an idiot and not know them. is it your knowledge from going to school (maybe the psych 101)? your IQ? or that u still carry a gun?

          • Liege Maximo

            He’s a piece of shit pig, and nothing he says has any validity in the slightest. Disinformation agent, piece of shit, scum bag, pig.

          • bigpawn01

            f@ck the police

          • don

            this bully(dirty cop) should be fired and his family sent into exile

          • Truth hurts

            You people make me laugh. What kind of idiot would blame anyone, especially a law enforcement officer for protecting themselves from being mauled by an animal? You are all the same kind of retards who complain about the police until someone steals your shit or knocks your teeth out. Then you scream and yell for the cops to “do their jobs.” None of you would last 2 seconds doing that job. Dumbasses

          • KarenYou’reATool


            As you have failed to display your ability to form a complete sentence, I will have to assume you are one of the unfortunate American’s who possesses an extra chromosome. Seriously, not one single instance in any of your examples is grammatically or syntactically acceptable. I have absolutely no problem calling you a complete and total idiot. My only regret is that you were not here last week to lick MY windows before I spent most of the evening on Wednesday cleaning them.


            Just about everyone who graduated high school.

          • OccupySac Ustream

            judge not one intellect by their grammar. that is the fault of our school system. in fact there has been no link between good grammar and being smart, quite the opposite actually. people with higher IQ’s tend to have problems with their hand writing, grammar, spelling and others. look at any professors notes (except English, or language). further i find it ironic that a cop would be so bold as to call some one an idiot. statistically speaking law enforcement require one of the lowest IQ scores of American jobs. a score of 80 is enough to qualify. but then again, who wants smart cops? a smart cop might actually realize that half the orders they are giving violate our constitution, they might ask questions, they might think for themselves, they might realize that their harassment, and oppression are the number 1 cause of crime in this country. it’s funny cops always try to tell me i don’t know what i’m talking about. then i prove them wrong very time, even on the “laws” they are supposed to enforce, yet don’t even know. whats even funnier is watching them break the law then expect you to respect them telling you to follow it. lol. i remeber one who swore up and down that I “didn’t know shit, your homeless how could you know anything?” a few moments later i proved him wrong about having him think he had a legitimate reason to stop me. he didn’t. my how embarrassed he looked having a “bum” educate him on how to properly do his job. though there are cops who are smart, and ones who really are there to keep people safe. today, unfortunately, most of them are big, dumb, violent bullies with out the capability act or think independently. in the years I’ve spent being homeless there has only been one gang that I’ve had to stress off trying to get me, the police. i’ve been beaten three times by officers, one of them i already had a broken jaw. none of these times had i committed any legitimate offense, once because i knocked on the door next to my friends on accident, once for counting my money in an alley, and once for not answering his questions (which would be a protected action under the 5th amendment). i have witnessed hundreds of illegal searches, stops, and other civil rights violations. i have witnessed law enforcement break three laws, just to give some one a ticket for crossing an empty street. i realize not all cops are like this, but what am i supposed to think of them when these are th things i see every day. i honestly can not remember ever seeing a cop actually help some one,but i’ve seen them arrest a rape victim for drinking a single beer on her own porch to calm her nerves.

          • bigpawn01

            lmao yeah maybe they need to check out some of Einsteins grammar. The guy was a genius and could not write worth a shit.

          • Fun facts

            Einstein was dyslexic.

          • bigpawn01

            ouh shit!! Duck every body the grammar police are here. My grammar may be bad but my chemistry is above average. lol. Thank what ever gods may be for science.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            LOL. Idiots are idiots. You can usually tell from their writing and grammar, or lack thereof. You know, things like using all lower case, inappropriate use of caps, poor spelling or inappropriate abbreviations for proper communication.

            You know, sort of like what you do.

          • correction

            don’t need as many commas

          • Frank Grimes


            This is the second time you’ve incorrectly “corrected” this ex-cop’s grammar. He may be a POS pig, but he can construct a grammatically correct sentence. (Surprising, really. In addition to having one of the lowest minimum I.Q. requirements, police departments will also REJECT applicants for having too high an I.Q. So there is LITERALLY no such thing as a “smart cop.”)

          • jonQ

            Have you gone to college? His writing is just as flawed as those he is trying to put down.
            “LOL. Idiots are idiots. You can usually tell from their writing and grammar, or lack thereof. You know, things like using all lower case, inappropriate use of caps, poor spelling or inappropriate abbreviations for proper communication.

            You know, sort of like what you do.”

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            It comes from legal writing, where more than one conjunction are separated by commas for clarity in statutory or contract interpretation.

          • excop-lawstudent is stupid

            dude… shut up! You’re a tool! This is a comment board… there is nothing proper about this.

          • Melanie Willick

            Or all the bullshit and lies you tell to put people in jail, or beat up innocent people because you feel like it! Grow up you arrogant fuck

          • Annonny

            Another sign of being an idiot, or a pre teen girl, is using lol.

          • Matthew R Webb

            Whut U meen? Dat shizzle be like whak. Y 4 U so not nice… U like 4realz no whut dey meenz.

          • jonQ

            Honestly, I’ve read through your trolling posts and your grammar is just as poor as those that you make fun of. This is not a place where grammar counts, that is for classrooms and the workplace, this is a forum to get views across about the unjust treatment of that man’s dog.

          • Scott

            Bad grammar or punctuation shouldn’t define a person or minimize their ability to have an opinion.

            Unless of course you think you are better than everyone else and feel you have the right to define people in that manner..

          • Dieter Gould

            Karen murray,

            Are you one of these Autistic children? Opps! They’re actually smarter than you, even with that extra chromosome… Advice! Go back to school, and learn Engrish! At least the Asians would understand you… Oh, one more… Take up a gramma crass too! By then, you may be able to write complete sentences, and actually speak English. And, if that don’t work for ya, then take up a courses in Wattoosie, and/or Zwahelee. Then, and only then, just maybe someone will understand you… And you don’t have to read Cursive either…

          • Myke McDonald

            Dieter. You are a bully and an asshole. I am autistic and am

          • OccupySac Ustream

            you might want to make sure you grammar and spelling are correct before getting on some one about it!

          • Jamie Marques

            wow, you really are a nasty piece of work. I wonder if your Mother knew you were going to be like that when you were born, because if I were in her shoes, I would of left you for dead in an alleyway.

          • Liege Maximo

            “Sovereign citizen idiots”? Really? You’re a piece of shit pig. Nothing you have to say is of any validity at all. I beat the police twice last year, because they are fucking idiots, and they ALWAYS fuck up. They don’t know the fucking law, they THINK they are the law…. But you know what you piece of shit pig? You’re not. You’re a stupid piece of shit.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            This from someone who is named after a toy (Transformers).

          • correction

            *this is from

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent


          • David Bruce Feldman

            you sir, make yourself look bad with your comments

          • OccupySac Ustream

            actually he was saying that he wished pd was a corporate entity so we could hold them accountable

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Then he needs to choose his words more carefully, because that is not what he said.

          • OccupySac Ustream


            Hugh Jorgan

            12 hours ago

            I wish police departments were
            private ‘corporations’ hired by the community in which they work. At
            least then they could be held accountable for their actions. As it
            stands now, they are *higher than civilians and can only be held
            accountable by their superiors.

          • Dave in NY

            how could it ‘not be what he said’ when you ‘have no clue what you are getting at.’… such a tool

          • Robyn Ryan

            We pay their salaries. They work for us. Demand the Mayor and City Council (also our employees) to give us value for our money, not violence.

          • John Johnson

            Violence is necessary sometimes Robyn, to protect you and yours.

          • Robyn Ryan

            Violence is the last resort of the incompetent. The military taught me that.

          • John Johnson

            Incompetent, until your life or the life of someone you care about needs that ”violence” to save your life.

          • R. S. S.

            You do know that it is illegal to sue most corporations now because they run the country and own the politicians and police?

          • Matthew R Webb

            It is not illegal to sue a corp. Where did you come up with that?

          • Maurice Taylor

            “Unlike what the sovereign citizen idiots” Why do you choose to reference to sovereign people as idiots ?

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Because most of don’t understand the law and have tinfoil hat beliefs.

            I’m also not real keen on the racist history of the movement.

          • alien99

            Scumbag cop becomes a scumbag ignorant lawyer that works for the King. All you have to look forward to is rolling over and taking it in the arse.

          • jonQ

            Again, great grammar ExCop…

          • pissed off

            who gives a fuck dumb-fuck

          • alien99

            Look it up on Dunn&Bradstreet….All Police Deptments, courts, and prisons are incorporated. Wake up my friend.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Dunn & Bradstreet doesn’t prove anything you idiot.

          • alien99

            Look in the mirror TOOL. Everything is incorporated…including the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, which is incorporated in Puerto Rico, you stupid Phcuk:) And you went from being one Pee-on to another Bigger Pee-on in the system owned by your MASTER the Crown of England.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent


            I do have a question. If you believe, as a sovereign whackjob, that you are under common law, then why do y’all keep talking about the UCC?

          • alien99

            You’re just a common slave, that is still asleep, and who believes they are free, but nothing could be further from the truth…Lol. You can operate in the common law if you operate in the private(Th Republic). All courts operate in Admiralty Law or Law of the Sea, which is all about commerce. UCC is Admiralty Law…or Uniform Commercial Code. But Judges attempt to get Jurisdiction over you constantly, because they needs peoples consent to operate their scam. If they can’t get jurisdiction they can’t charge you. Lol!! Lawyers(Liars) are ignorant piles of shit and EVERYONE inherently knows this, scumbag. Why do you think the Law Society wrote all there Law in Latan/Liar Speak? Answer: so common folk can’t UNDERSTAND it and realize they ALL work for the CROWN. Ignorance keeps you a SLAVE Neo. Wake up you TOOL 8==> and suck it!

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            LOL. Typical whackjob thinking.

            The UCC is not admiralty law, it is statutory law, enacted by the same governments that you whackjobs claim are illegitimate. So why are you reserving “rights” under the UCC if you don’t “submit” to the courts?

            As far as not getting jurisdiction? If you are located within the state, they have jurisdiction, whether you consent or not.

            I laugh every-time that I read another report of one of you whackjobs trying that sovereign citizen mumbo-jumbo and end up in a cage.

          • alien99

            Hmmm…Let me see if you can UNDERSTAND a definition…UCC stands for the Uniform Commercial Code. The Uniform Commercial Code is a set of standards that set forth some requirements for specific types of commercial contracts. All Courts are run using Admiralty law. Look it up anywhere TOOL. There is a private side and a public side. The public side is where TOOL ignorant Lawyers operate and the private is where TOOL lawyers can’t go. They need you’re consent at all times. Look there is no debating STUPID, so I won’t even try. I laugh every time a TOOL like you thinks they know what freedom is, while they are a SLAVE that licks you’re masters boots. There are plenty stories of successes TOOL. I rather be the master of my own fate than put it your scumbag TOOL life force sucking hands. You’re a Gremlin that deserves the worst this life has to offer, because you earned it everyday TOOL. Lol

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            LOL. I’ll just let you talk and prove you’re an idiot.

            Buh bye.

          • alien99

            You whimper and whine into your little corner…I will take pride I was the one who finally got you to STFU. Lol, just take a hard look in the mirror scumbag copper, how pathetic your life has become.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            LOL. You’re still delusional I see. Did you skip taking your meds today? Are the voices in your head getting louder?

            Put some more tinfoil on your hat.

            In the meantime, I’m going to buy some more Alcoa stock.

          • alien99

            Dear…scumbag cop/Liawyer,

            Cops are pussies who got their asses beat daily and needed to get a badge for a WEAK attempt to control others. Lawyers: THere is no lower form of life.

            What’s it like to know you are hated everywhere you go, you fascist /commie? Thanks for helping create the Police State scumbag.

            I would definitely think about changing you’re screen name….fascist/commies are universally hated.

            Don’t worry you will soon be living in our world. Not you’re Police State that you help to create.

            Get on back to you’re fascist/commie hobbies of pinching pennies. Alcoa you must live in the South, where there is more Dumb Phcuks per square inch that anywhere else in the country. Lol

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            LOL. Yawn.

          • Aya Mozas

            Mr. LawStudent! since you decided to lecture everyone about language and proper grammar and what not, let me tell you! i have met people from all sorts of places and all sorts of eduction levels, those that are truly smart, happen to me humble and very respectful to others opinions and levels of education. What you’re presenting here is a form of “idiotic arrogance” from a person who is nothing but a Law student who hasnt even graduated yet and possibly got to Law school after being a cop through some sort of hook up. However, aside from your arrogance and disrespect to others opinions, any one who watches the video can see that the cop killed the dog on intentionally, they could have shot him once in the leg and injured him without shooting him to death. However this sick, person made sure to shoot him 4 times infront of his owner, to kill him. not to mention that the cops could have avoided shooting the dog by simply allowing the owner to put him back in the car and close the windows. the dog seemed very obedient to his owner when he said go away. considering your a lawyer you should have thought of that, however being an Ex cop you probably gave it the blind eye since, you were a corrupt cop yourself.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            I would respond, but since your grammar and sentence structure was so poor, I have no clue what you are getting at.

            Try using short sentences that don’t run on forever. Paragraphs would be nice too.

          • John Johnson

            Aya, Is the gentleman with the phone and dog as you put it being ”truly smart, humble,and respectful to the officers and what their attempting to do at this crime scene. Did not like what happened with the dog being shot, but this gentleman,had he been acting like you say with humble and respectful intent would not have allowed this to play out like it did. You all may have good reason to not like law enforcement, but lets not lump every officer into the garbage bag. Be smart people, and not jump on the bandwagon.

          • Liege Maximo

            YOu’re a fucking piece of shit pig. Full of goddamn disinformation and lies. You’re a fucking traitor and should be treated as such. Fucking asshole.

          • Jon Quimbly

            PINAC. Where everbody comes to act out their anger and frustration.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            LOL. Good for you. Does your mother know your using her computer?

          • HMD

            Does inappropriate us of the word your identify idiots as well?

          • OccupySac Ustream

            if you think that proper grammar means anything the real world, then ya.

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          • Frank Grimes

            You finally got one right! Kudos!

          • Chris Chrisley

            hey there mr. small hands..wow, you really are a piece of shit aren’t you? what are you gonna do when the shit really hits the fan, and your fellow citizens no longer look to you and your ilk for permission not to whip your ass? how are you gonna handle it when there are no more dog-killers around to protect you? and the anonymity of your mother’s basement can’t hide your bile anymore? are you gonna beg for forgiveness, or just go out in a blaze of glory…like the spineless little punk you are?

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Oooh. I’m scared.

            What you propose may be more difficult that you think. I certainly won’t beg for forgiveness, and certainly not to the likes of you.

          • Hugh Jorgan

            Sorry to burst your bubbles but they ARE registered corporations. I never said they were private corporations and I never said they were independent. They’re still operated by the state BUT the state has given them separate corporate identities to operate through for PROFIT.

            Want proof that you can verify for yourself ? – check this out – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmCqn9maWBs

            The very fact that they are registered as corporations on Dun & Bradstreet means that their SOLE purpose and LEGAL DUTY is to maximize profits for shareholders/directors … THIS calls the motivation of the individual cops into question … did they beat the shit out of you with batons, taze you and charge you with obstruction because you were breaking a law by standing with your hands in your pockets or was it because they’re getting paid to beat the shit out of you and charge you ?????

            P.S. whoever mis-quoted me earlier in the thread … please scroll back up and assign the right quote to the right poster !!!

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            4409 is a sovereign citizen idiot who does not understand the law. I could easily post something on Youtube that states the opposite, but it would not be proof either.

            Talk to an attorney. If they don’t laugh you out of the office, you may learn something.

          • Hugh Jorgan

            Wow, that’s a really piss-poor reply. Now how about you address the issue of the Dun & Bradstreet screen captures, or do you think that calling the video presenter an idiot somehow invalidates the FACTS that anyone can verify for themselves ? Do you think the captures are fake ? Please produce the link/s you refer to in which screen captures show that many, many police departments are NOT listed along side other regular corporations on Dun & Bradstreet.

            As for talking to attorneys, I normally wouldn’t give any licensed lying, scheming, deceptive, corrupt attorney/lawyer/solicitor the steam off my piss but as it just so happens, I am in regular communication with a genuinely honorable attorney with 27 years experience so … NEE NER NEE NER NEEEEEEE NERRRR :P

            Now, how to unsubscribe from this bullshit-fest ???

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Oh, sorry. I didn’t realize that you were one of the whackjobs.

          • Hugh Jorgan

            What a shame you can’t just admit that you were wrong and that the irrefutable proof on Dun & Bradstreet along with your own sense of self importance has made you look like a rude, sulky little child.

            Good luck with your law-school indoctrination on your way to becoming a lying, cheating scumbag. Bye bye.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            ROTFL. Bye bye.


          • Hugh Jorgan

            Twat :D

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            LOL, that not “irrefutable proof.” Try reading the statutes and the law.

          • All4it

            I wish police departments were private ‘corporations’ hired by the community in which they work. At least then they could be held accountable for their actions. As it stands now, they are *higher than civilians and can only be held accountable by their superiors.

          • Maurice Taylor

            Actually they wouldn’t, much like Wal-mart is never accountable to their actions.

          • Doglover

            Even there cars say to serve, and protect. On this premise alone, the dog owner could sue. The public voice can be hard to ignore if justice is insisted upon. I personally will be tracking this case. I will sign any petition against the officer(s).

          • as

            No they’re not. They’re a monopoly on security funded by coercive taxation.

          • peterhoran

            They’re not. They are government actors, and employees of the city they work for, or in the case of Sheriffs, they are employees of the county. However, municipalities and counties are not covered by sovereign immunity. They can either be sued in situations like this where the victim alleges deficient training, or the officer can be sued personally. Almost invariably, cities and counties cover individual officers who are acting in their scope of duty, even if their actions are improper. Given the insurance that municipalities typically have, there is a potential for large judgments in such cases.

          • Doglover

            I hope Leon Rosby follows your advice, and sues! He has the evidence, it is an easy win.

          • gimpbully

            What? The public makes hiring decisions for officers now?

          • OccupySac Ustream

            we should be able to evaluate the mental health of any one who would be a cop every six months to ensure they do not become like this, and th public should have more say in who our law enforcement is. personally i would prefer at least an IQ requirement thats around th average persons.

          • JoshINHB

            CA needs an initiative to make the police officers liable in some way for civil damages. Something like taking the settlement money out of their pension fund so that every cop suffers at least a little bit when one of his ‘brothers’ abuses the public.

          • psychokillers911

            I would advocate that law enforcement be required to purchase their own liability insurance to pay for any damages awarded in a civil suit. Much like medical professionals have malpractice insurance, this insurance would cover the officer for any civil damages awarded to plaintiffs in civil trials.

            Too many judgements against an officer and insurance companies would no longer wish to offer coverage to that person. No insurance and no job as LE.

            As a side note, I am required to have a $2 million policy on my truck so I am able to enter my work locations. This policy is fairly inexpensive so requiring police to carry at least $2 million in coverage is not being out of line in my opinion.

            It is time to stop making the public monetarily liable for the criminal actions of the police.

          • Hugh Jorgan

            In an ideal world that would be a great idea, however … since the Nazi’s who spread around the world and set up as reputable bankers after the little skirmish affectionately known as WWII are well and truly in charge, they actually want the cops to be nasty, vindictive, psychopathic cunts, just like Hitler’s “Brown Shirts”, to keep the masses in fear and to maximise control along with ever increasing profits from ever increasing corruption.

          • KeepDreaming

            Yeah… the day that happens in liberal utopia Kalifornia where the all knowing all powerful goobermint is god is the day hell freezes over.

          • 3GoldBars

            Now THAT’S the real problem.
            We the People” have become disconnected from what happens to us and have forgotten that they work for us!! We have to stand together, left/right/other, black/white/whatever. They want us fractured, disorganized, weak, and cowering in fear…

          • OccupySac Ustream

            well said! truth!

          • bigpawn01

            you speak the truth but its really gonna take something to get people to stand together.

          • TheMsmother


        • Fotaugrafee

          That’s why it should be administered by death. Catapaulted this dumb pig’s worthless ass right into a brick wall on pay-per-view.

        • americanexile

          Who the hell cares if the taxpayer foots the bill. Silence is consent, and 99% of the public won’t ever even know about this story or would give enough of a shit to do anything about it.

          You get the government you deserve.

          • OccupySac Ustream

            there are those of us will take a stand for our rights! and tough we are few for now, give it time and keep inspiring other to stand up for theirs. we should not fear the government, for it is they who ARE afraid. they are afraid that the public will see how hey have ruined our nation. they are afraid that on day the people will unite as one and take back our country! don’t just sit there and let bad things happen, you are not powerless to make a difference.

        • Casey Fluffbutt

          Give him that years pay from that fascist pig then, and sack the pig..

        • maxiemom


          Then people need to wake the hell up and do something about cops who behave more like they’re the military than cops.

          This nation USED to know the difference. It was one of our FOUNDING principles.

          • james

            unfortunately some of the cops were in the military, at least in my town, most of the cops are/were in military active duty. After you do your military tour some people who come back and become police. Even some of them would have a very hard time adjusting from military life to civilian life. As for the officer in CA, are they trained to handle dogs if they do encounter one? In my state all officers are require training to handle dogs and other animals in event they do enconter them

          • maxiemom

            Obviously not.

            Also, I read another article where a commenter pointed out that the officer who shot the dog, Officer Salmon, was involved in a lawsuit concerning police brutality and police corruption. Apparently he kicked a man in the head while he and his wife were lying handcuffed on the ground, and to make it look legit , arrested them on bogus charges. The good news is it was caught on video so the city had to shell out $1000000. The bad news is they didn’t fire the scumbag, and left him on the force where he could hit Mr. Rosby, provoking his dog in the process so he had a reason to kill. This is a very bad cop who should be in jail, not out on the streets.

        • Concernedcitizen

          Not a chance. This dude was in the wrong and the officer’s defended themselves. It’s too bad it was the dog that paid the price.

          • Sarah

            They could have simply asked the man to secure his dog in the car. That dog was no real threat, he was just trying to be a good dog and protect his owner. I don’t think any cop with a hair trigger like that should be on the force. If you can’t calm down and assess a threat properly, then it is YOU who are the threat.

          • KeepDreaming

            In the wrong? For doing what? Breathing? Filming? You my friend have been smoking too much fascist crack.

        • steveo

          No, no money for this one. They’ll get QI for this.

        • Allen Po’okela Pharr

          Payouts going to good use then, rather than someone who spurts out 15 kids.

        • Doglover

          He could sue the officer, and make him pay privately.

      • Zero

        As a child I have been attacked by a stray dog while coming home from school and three other times while trying to get away from the dogs.On TV and papers I have seen dogs attack small children for no reason sometimes killing them. So if a dog comes after me and I got my pistola payback time that mother fucker is dead just like the cops did!!!

        • Jemster

          Do the world a favor and get some therapy, please. Your issues are irrational and need a professional to sort out and get to the root of. I, too, have been attacked as a child by a dog and guess what…realized a) it was THAT dog and that dog alone that went after me and b) it was probably MY fault! Can your rational mind wrap itself around this possibility.. that is was the OWNER of the dog that attacked you who was at fault? Of course not. The papers and TV don’t give you the many, many stories about the dogs that are good citizens, who saved people’s lives, help them lives their lives to the fullest, etc. cause it’s too mundane for them. Finally, based on this response, I don’t think you’d know a friendly dog “coming after you” since all you see is a monster.

          • zero

            Your another dumb ass mother fucker that thinks everybody has deep issues and you have the answer.And if I was looking to do the world a favor I would probably find you and try to fix your problems. And for your info I have always had dogs around all of my children as they were growing up and a cat and I deeply loved those animals they were a part of our family, But one thing I never did was put the life of my dogs in harms way because at the time I would have probably killed some one for hurting one of them. So don’t try and fix my problems please try to fix your own…Dumb Fuck!!

          • Jessica

            you guys realize that this is WHY our govt/police are so crooked, right? because when something legitimately awful happens, rather than directing our anger at the people that fucked up, we bicker with each other about some shit that doesn’t even matter! can you even imagine what would happen if we stopped fighting each other about some petty shit and really let the gravity of our police force killing people and animals without any real consequences sink in, what we could do? we could harness our anger to make this STOP. We could do better. but as long as we are distracted and complacent, nothing will ever improve. that’s just the truth. NOBODY on this thread is a piece of shit or an idiot. We’re all just fucking pissed and feeling powerless to change what is going on. Realize that this fragmented “us against them” mentality is what is keeping us from moving forward. We are allowing ourselves to be played. truly.

          • OccupySac Ustream

            great comment. i wish more people would realize such wisdom.

          • Matthew R Webb

            So it is great to not have a differing opinion on issues?

          • Matthew R Webb

            The one who fucked up is the owner. He pulled up, loud ass music, pulled out his dog, did look suspicious, then failed to secure his dog properly. I am sure he didn’t mean to leave the window open enough for the dog to jump out. The owner failed to secure the dog. He fucked up. I can’t really blame someone for defending themselves against a perceived threat. I also don’t think the body language of the dog was aggressive. He looked bashful and the jump he made looked, to me at least, like the same kind of jump a dog does when someone comes in the house. It didn’t look like an aggressive move. In the end it is the owner that is responsible for failing to secure his pet. The pet is the one that paid the price for a whole bunch of idiots.

          • Wendy T

            Very well said !!! I would only add that the police officer who shot this dog. should face a investigation, without pay. and should lose his job. It was still animal cruelty. If the dog had actually bit him, I could of maybe understood. but this was bold out murder of a animal infront of many witnesses, children, women.

        • Anon

          I had a dog attack me when I was 14 years old playing in my neighborhood. It jumped to bite me, and I kicked it in defense. You know what happened? It realized that my foot hurts and it thought twice about trying to bite me again. I held my ground and it walked off, tail tucked. Death didn’t need to happen and I was just a young teenager. A grown ass adult officer should NOT have needed to use lethal force against a dog trying to protect its owner. Shame on him and shame on.

          • zero

            There is a difference between a fucking poodle and a pit you stupid little son of a goat..

          • youz-a-bitch

            your an ignorand fuckwhit zero… I hope your “pistola” goes off and shoots you in the leg (you probably dont, because your PROBABLY a 14 year old punk bitch!

          • http://www.facebook.com/rockinghorseguy Rockinghorseguy AnRockinghorse

            I wouldn’t start talking about the differences in breeds of dog until I was capable of differentiating between a “pit” and a Rottweiler.

          • msphoto70

            Before you call people stupid, maybe you should become a little more familiar with dog breeds.

          • OccupySac Ustream

            ya the poodles more likely to attack you!

          • Swig

            It’s protocol and the officer handled the situation fine. The only reason this video is getting so much press is because people don’t like to see animals getting killed. It’d be one thing if the officer shot the dog in the car, but it shot the dog as it was charging at him.

            Just another excuse to hate on police.

        • cris

          I hope one days a dog will bite your limbs off but not kill you.

          • zero

            I one day hope a dog bites your mothers dick off you fucking dumb ass mother fucker to say something that fucking stupid. So what the dog that attacked you and you kicked it and it ran away with its tail between its legs you stupid son of a bitch do you really think that every dog is going to turn and run just because you kick it. Fuck man think before you open your cock sucker you dumb ass mother fucker.

          • Mac

            So many cuss words and obscenities. You sure showed him…lol

          • Matthew R Webb

            You’re fucking right he mother fucking did fucker! Cause he aint taking no fucking shit from no fuckers. MUTHA FUCKA!

          • ZeroISADOUCHE

            You are a dipshit. Go back to your trailer. And please, do not breed.

        • as

          The owner was illegally arrested and then they killed the animal that was going to protect his owner. That’s not a stray dog. Why didn’t the cop use pepper mace?

          • Matthew R Webb

            He wasn’t being arrested, he was being detained. That is not illegal. The man did sort of make a target out of himself. They were most likely detaining him to figure out what his problem was. There is no crime in detaining a man who obviously looks like he is up to something. You can spray a dog with mace all you want, then what? How are you going to detain the dog after you mace it and piss it off? It is possible the dog would just run away, but then it is angry and fearful, it could attack someone by mistake.
            I am no expert, but I am not exactly sure how you deal with a dog. You can;t exactly reason with them.

          • Bob Sanders

            ” There is no crime in detaining a man who obviously looks like he is up to something.”

            The problem was he wasn’t doing ANYTHING wrong. Courts have consistently ruled that it is NOT illegal to record the police on public property. For these officers to arrest (or detain) this man for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong, they should be sued and fired. While I’m upset about the dog dying, I’m way more upset for these asshole cops arresting/detaining a man for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

            And FUCK YOU for suggesting he was “up to something” by exercising his constitutional rights. Hope your life is ruined while you’ve done nothing wrong. Asshole.

          • Matthew R Webb

            He was causing a distraction during a hostage crisis, he was told to turn down his music and step back, he failed to comply, that is doing something wrong. He could simply have turned down the music as ordered, backed up a little, and no problem. And yes, his body language and actions made him look like he was up to something. He was trying to lure the police into a situation like that so he could pile on top of his lawsuits. By the way, police can detain you for no reason at all if there is an ongoing investigation or crime. Learn your laws. At least in California.
            There is no constitutional right to distract police during the middle of a hostage situation. You notice all the other people who were filming and staying out of the way were left alone. You are simply a moron who jumps on the anti-cop bandwagon. I hope they don’t respond or some ass-hole prevents them from saving you if there was a gun to your head. You are simply an idiot.

          • Wendy T

            Very Good Question..Wish PETA would get involved and ask that very same question. This police officer should be setting in Jail !!!

        • KeepDreaming

          Copper wouldn’t have been in the position of even remotely being attacked if copper had not arrested a man doing nothing wrong!

      • Inali Silvermoon

        sadly with the fact animals even pets being seen as property they will get a slap on the wrist and sent on there marry way. The laws need to change on how animals are seen before any thing really can be done.

      • Anneetude

        No amount of pay out can replace what those bastards did. I come from a family of Police officers and Military. I am disgusted and enraged by the so called police today

      • Josh

        Not all cops.

      • Sinner

        That’s right, because the officers who wee merely trying to perform their duties and get back to their families safely are the problem. Nevermind that the entire issue would have been resolved if Rosby would have simply gotten into his vehicle and driven away. C’mon people. It’s time to start thinking straight. There are certainly crooked police out there, but these guys were well within their rights to protect themselves. The dog was unfortunately trying to protect his owner, and paid the price for being loyal. That’s sad. That life is irreplaceable. However, so are the lives of the officers.

        • Bob Sanders

          What exactly did they protect themselves from? Courts have consistently ruled that it is LEGAL for citizens to video record cops from public property. Cops pull rank and disobey these rulings because they know they’ll get a slap on the wrist and only have to apologize afterward. More cops need to be losing their jobs and be paying out the ass in lawsuits or else we’ll continue to see abuses of the law like this.

          Fuck you for suggesting otherwise.

      • Godzilla11

        You’re a moron. The dog owner is at fault for what happened to his dog. You don’t disrespect and get in the way of officers like that without repercussions.

        • Bob Sanders

          He “disrespected” the officers? The only people who disrespected anyone was those asshole officers who detained a man for doing absolutely nothing wrong. Fuck you.

      • Doglover

        I don’t agree the officer should be shot! But I agree with everything else you said.

    • Proud GrandPa

      Jake G, LEOs are right in this case. Don’t you think your painting all LEOs with a rather broad brush? Such generalizations reflect badly upon your decision-making ability. Even if the officers in this case had been in the wrong, there would still be not justification for your extreme statements.


      I refer you back to the original article to see the valid police justification for the incident which was deliberately creating a loud noise which made it difficult for police to hear. I respect our men in blue too much to place them at risk.
      Perhaps you were just joking or trolling for controversy. Either way your message merits a reply.

      • Detective Michael L. Varnado

        If the radio playing was so loud as to cause the police officers problems, then why wasn’t the dog owner arrested and his radio turned down as to aid the brave officers who were actually making the arrest. These two idiots weren’t doing anything but watching the guy and his dog. The guy that shot the dog has mental issues.

        • Proud GrandPa

          Let’s accept your premise that the radio was so loud as to cause problems. Why wasn’t the radio player immediately arrested? Because the police wanted to give him a chance to avoid arrest by turning down the radio. I am sure they were glad to give him a chance to do the right thing. That way they protect their fellow LEOs in the raid by maintaining silence and they don’t have to arrest anybody. Securing citizen cooperation is faster and quieter than arresting the citizen.


          As to what they were doing watching the dog guy, that is obviously due to the fact that they were on perimeter control. Its their job to look at anything that might harm the team in the raiding force or impair the success of the raid such as loud noise. If they had been neglecting their duty then that would be a different matter.


          Hope this helps. You don’t need to feel sorry for this dog owner. He got what he wanted… arrested… so his lawyer can sue.

          • as

            Cops should be trained to be able to handle high-stress situations, including loud car radios.

          • Matthew R Webb

            It looks like they were just detaining him at first.

          • wendy T

            The police officer should still be removed from his position. Its not the dog owner that ppl are concerned about. It is the cold hearted shooting of this poor Dog. that was only doing what dogs do. If the police officer was actually bitten by this animal, maybe that would be justification for this shooting.This officer was to quick to pull that trigger. And should loss his job. This is a matter for PETA…Women and children watched this poor animal suffer..Wow..Makes ppl afraid to leav their homes..If this is who we have protecting us..

          • Proud GrandPa

            Shooting the dog was the only correct response. The officer was protecting himself and fellow officers. See other comments in this thread. Thanks, WendyT, for addressing this.

    • Brandon

      Not all cops are like this, but these stupid ass holes need to be put in jail. Some cops get too power hungry and not to mention the “officer” or piece of shit that shot the dog was the one who approached the dog when it was aggressive and did not give the owner a chance to control his dog, completely his fault.

      • Sarah

        Exactly. Any calm, thoughtful person would have simply asked the man to secure his dog. Or I bet if they had calmly approached the dog with a friendly voice they could have taken him to the car themselves. That cop is a bit too trigger happy.

    • Darius Dpas Deepazz Smith

      I hope you are not encouraging the death of more police officers.

    • ssibert

      You’re an idiot!

    • Martinconte

      Yea, that’s intelligent!

    • Godzilla11

      Wrong. The criminal who got in the way of Police business knowingly and egged them on is the one who should be held accountable for what happened to his dog.

      • JackBast

        What ‘criminal’? There was no crime there, the pigs just didn’t want to be legally filmed and decided arresting him and taking his phone would be easier on them later, thankfully it backfired spectacularly and hopefully they’ll be due a damn sight more repercussions for their for heavy-handed over-reactionary, dare I say racist actions. They could have uncuffed him to calm the dog, but no, they shoot instead.

        If ever there were police who needed watching by the public it’s that lot.

        • Bob Sanders

          It really is amazing all the people chiming in here saying this man somehow did something to deserve this. In fact, this is almost more chilling than the NSA and all the federal government’s illegal surveillance programs. If our society is unwilling to standup for someone illegally detained for lawfully filming police from public property and not only that but EXCUSE police for illegally detaining/arresting a citizen for exercising his legal rights, just flush this country down the fucking shitter already.

    • jon doe

      Dittos a 1000 times

  • Dieselducy

    THIS is why I HATE PIGS!! This is totally inhuman !!! THose cops deserve to die a slow and painful death. I hope he sues the HELL out of those police

    • tituslaney

      what is totally inhuman was how this useless punk put both the cops and the dog into this dangerous situation

      • Dattele

        How was this dangerous to the well armed group of police Ms. Tit? How?

        • Bob Bullock

          The dog was trying to protect his master. The master was trying to get the attention of the cops for a civil rights lawsuit. He was baiting them.

          • Upurs

            You right-wing scum and your victim blaming. You probably blame the Steubenville night-long pack rape on the poor teenage girl who was assaulted and not on the jocks who commited the assaults.

          • Bob Bullock

            I was just observing the guy in the tape. Watch it closely. He keeps moving closer and the guys taping it are commenting on it as he does it. I am not blaming the victim, the victim is the dog. Poor thing. The cops were clearly out of line, but I just think the guy was baiting them. Making himself a target for some reason. Why did they pick him out of all the other folks who were taping them? He declared his intentions when he yelled, “civil rights violation”.

            No I don’t think any woman is to blame for rape, any more than I think the dog should have been killed for protecting his master.

          • NattyTati

            Maybe he yelled that out because they were actually violating the civil rights of one of the people involved in the arrest he was filming?

          • Bob Bullock

            That is a strong possibility. I’ve never seen civil rights decline faster than I have under this President. It’s ironic. Bush took it down with the patriot act, but the decline in the past 4 years has been like a land slide. Now citizens can be jailed indefinitely without trial or cause under the ndaa.

          • http://clarkcountycriminalcops.wordpress.com/ Clark Crimcops

            While I don’t see how he baited the cops, let’s just assume for a moment that’s what he did.

            This raises a very important question:

            SO THE FUCK WHAT?

            People are “baited” all the time. The clerk at 7-11 is baited. Teachers are baited every day.

            These officers appear to be grown-ass men, and didn’t have to take the bait. After all police are big proponents of baiting. They should be trained better. They should be mature enough, decent enough not to take the bait.

            Something tells me you are not so vocal in your opposition to baiting, when police officers leave a $50k vehicle in the poorest neighborhood, keys just sitting on the hood, and call BAIT CAR!!!.

            If a suspect on “Bait Car” shot a K-9 that snapped at his hand, I bet those cops would have a much different reaction.

            You’ve reduced these officers to children in order to excuse their behavior.

          • zero

            You have a point there people are baited all the time but police have to deal with the extremes like suicide by cop, and bait cars are placed in areas where neighbors complain about theft and there are some neighbor hoods where people don’t lock their cars or front doors at night because some people still respect their neighbors shit, You can’t put a bait car in a neighbor hood where people don’t steal. And that’s just the way that shit works my friend..

          • http://clarkcountycriminalcops.wordpress.com/ Clark Crimcops

            “You can’t put a bait car in a neighbor hood where people don’t steal.”

            Please tell me where this magical neighborhood is.

          • Bob Bullock

            I agree, they should have been above the baiting, but their “authority” got in the way. Cops have this superiority complex that makes them 6 ft tall and bullet proof, in their own minds.

            This is why you should not bait them, it’s like baiting a bear, someone or something will get messed up.

          • zero

            Bob one thing you have to understand the police were within their rights to protect their self’s, If that dog would have got a hold of one of those officer it would have been hard to get a clear shot off before it did some real damage. But I agree with you on every thing else.

          • Elena Ferrante

            What about pepper spray, if the officer felt threatened??? Senseless, needless violence, pure and simple…

          • zero

            Something you don’t know about pepper spray, It DOES NOT WORK ON DOGS you piss that size dog off with pepper spray and you will wish you had a gun.FACT!!!

          • Voice-Of-Concern

            Wait.. Pepper spray.. Which was developed from Mail Carriers used Halt! To protect themselves from dogs and also works on Bears…does not work on large dogs? That sounds like something other than “fact” to me.

          • zero

            Man you just keep showing how stupid you are. Do you think that just because a mailman sprayed pepper spray in the dogs eyes he didn’t get bit. Its a fact that some where injured very badly you can shoot a fucking raging dog in the head with a gun and it doesn’t always kill it.. Man get the fuck off the internet and let grown people that has an idea of what’s going on debate

          • ConcernedCitizen

            Pepper spray doesn’t even work on all humans. I would have shot a 100lb rottweiler coming to attack me too. Dude was baiting the cops, he wanted his 15 minutes, and this is what happens. Should have listened when they told him to turn down the music.

          • OccupySac Ustream

            fyi pepper spray does work on dogs bro, why do you think mail men carry it. and the dog had already stopped barking and started sniffing the ground by the time they shot it. they took over three seconds beyond what would have been even considerable as justified.

          • zero

            FYI bro do you think that pepper spray always kept a mailman from getting bit? Hell No!! some were injured badly. Its also a fact that police have shot dogs in the head and have not killed the dogs. Some dogs don’t know they have been shot and just keep fighting until they collapse.Get Real Bro!!

          • Jerry Vazquez

          • Pixie

            Thank you, Vazquez, for putting this discussion to rest. I carry pepper spray to deter bear AND cougar. Of course it works on dogs. It works on MAMMALS.


          • tituslaney

            yeah, you were there, huh

          • Darksideblues42

            Pepper Spray does work on dogs. It works on almost ANY mammal due to the fact that OC (Oleoresin Capsicum, the active ingredient) is the pepper plant’s defense against being eaten by mammals. Strangely enough, it has no effect on most birds, since birds are the primary seed vector for the spread of the plants and will actually eat even the hottest peppers on the planet by the hundreds if you let them….some parrots act like they are candy.

            Please do your homework a little better before spouting off half-truths and outright falsehoods.

          • Jerry Vazquez

            Here is proof that it works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDUC7oFVYB4

          • as

            Ever hear of bear mace, that, you know, blinds bears?

          • Brian

            THATS WHY OFFICERS ARE ARMED WITH MORE THAN JUST LETHAL GUNS! Baton, Pepper Spray, Stun Guns etc. Shoot to kill should be the LAST resort.

          • Bob Bullock

            they had no reason to arrest the guy in the first place, which makes shooting the dog unnecessary. Had they left the guy alone it would have been a mute point, but they took the bait.

          • your wrong

            They had no right to arrest the guy in the first place… he was doing no wrong filming them doing their job (as proved by the thousands of civil lawsuits regarding recording of a civil servant) the man and his dog were in NO danger until the police decided to be dicks…

          • your wrong

            robbery suspect was already in custody. the situation was over… they were simply clearing the scene… and also grammar nazis, go to hell… this isnt your interwebz… people dont need to cater to your needs

          • as

            …and the police wouldn’t have to be in the position to protect themselves if they weren’t violating the 1st Amendment.

          • Seth

            Yes, so that constitutes the use of lethal force with a gun rather than, oh, I don’t know, a standard issue taser? Pepper spray? Physical force? Asking the owner to call the dog off (which it appears that he was attempting to, if the police were to stop interfering with him)?

            I’m not saying the police shouldn’t have defended themselves, and I’m not saying that they initiated the situation, but why is lethal force the go-to option? Would you prefer if cops handled all situations like that? There is such thing as unnecessary force. Killing a dog that is trying to protect it’s owner and has yet to attack is excessive force.

          • Proud GrandPa

            TROLL ALERT
            (Not worth a reply)

          • BoxArt844

            You dumb shit left wing nutjobs, you never possess common sense nor environmental awareness. The idiot had his music blaring, which can be heard in the video. He also moved into the barricade scene. So yes, the idiot is in the wrong and put himself, the dog, officers, and everyone else at risk. The cop also made a bad call shooting the dog.

            It’s funny how liberals like you bring up other incidents while ignoring the 10 and 12 year old girls raped by an illegal immigrant. You’re all pathetic.

          • Voice-Of-Concern

            What does this have to do with liberal/conservative? And why the name-calling & red herrings? This article sez nothing about children or rape or immigrants. How does injecting those issues into this matter move the conversation forward?

          • Plus 1

            Yes, iPhones and loud music are a great risk. Especially when the 2 pigs were standing on the sidewalk watching their pig brethren actually do the work. Therefore they weren’t “obstructed” at all, because they weren’t actually doing a fucking thing. Thank God the other “idiots” filming this exposed these jack-booted pigs for what they are. Their “bad call” won’t bring back the life of this animal.

            Did you hear the screams from the people who witnessed this needless slaughter of a pet trying to protect his owner? It’s always the victim’s fault to you Reich Wing bigots, especially if the victim happens to be black, or an “illegal immigrant”. I’m surprised you took the time out from your “Birther” party to actually comment on this. FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!

          • Pixie

            844, sorry to hear that you have this problem of deciding all (as in all “left-wing nutjobs”) think and believe the same. Didn’t your high school teachers teach you about diversity? Us “liberals” don’t all think the same. I am, in fact, environmentally aware.

            My one and only response to your post is this: Being on a public street during the day is NOT A CRIME. A crime scene is noted by police by using police tape. Crossing a police tape: that is the LINE that makes this possibly a crime.

            844, please point to where in the videos it shows this person crossing the police tape. If he crossed that LINE, then I agree he should be arrested. Otherwise, you are wrong and you need to go home.

            He had every legal right to be there, with his dog, and his long leash– and his loud music. This is still America.

          • zero

            I totally agree Bob

        • tituslaney

          you don’t consider that dog dangerous?

          • Sam

            A dog trying to protect his master doesn’t make the dog dangerous. It makes it loyal. You could tell that dog wasn’t being a menace. It wasn’t until the cops started arresting his master illegally that the dog reacted.

            If the dog wanted to attack that police officer, it would have done a lot more than hop at him. That police officer wanted a reason to shoot that man’s dog. He never even should have pulled his firearm. They have other forms of deterrent. Firing your weapons always is and always should be, a LAST RESORT.

            These men are scum abusing their position and deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law, stripped of their badges and never allowed to become police officers again. These men are a disgrace to the badge.

          • michael92064

            Firing with a hard surface background with all the people around…not too bright.

          • Liege Maximo

            Pigs are not bright at all. Pigs are worthless pieces of shit who think they are the law.

          • OccupySac Ustream

            ricochet could have hit some one. but who said cops were smart

          • Zero

            The cops were smart they shot mother fucker before the dog attacked them. Hey look if I drive down the street and the police are conducting a house raid my ass is staying out of sight, Why piss off the police by video taping them…

          • D

            You’re the exact reason why the police get away with this shit. You can take your spineless ass back home.

          • zero

            Mike the police have a hard enough job to do without dumb fucks like you getting in there way, I don’t see you taking the job of being a police officer in this crazy ass world. And I will take my spineless ass home only if you bring your dog over you pussy!!

          • bunnyswanson

            It has not always been this way ZERO. Not a time in my life before 9-11 have the cops been this out of control. Some one has given them orders to shoot first. The recording of these paid professionals should be allowed for evidence for or against them. When there is no justice for one person, there is no justice for anyone at all. You may find yourself at the wrong place at the wrong time and realize i may be correct. The SPCA should have been called to restrain the dog. 30 minutes. 30 MINUTES is all it would have taken to prevent this horrendous reprehensible act of killing an innocent dog.

          • zero

            mike I don’t believe that I’m the exact reason for any thing the cops do you dumb fuck, But I do know if you fuck with them long enough they will arrest your ass period!!

          • OccupySac Ustream

            fear is their most potent tool. they like people like you zero. fearful, complacent, easy for them to manipulate. we can not allow the bullies that are currently infecting Americas law enforcement intimidate! us from our rights or soon we won’t have any rights left

          • zero

            You stupid bastard let me take you where I grew up at I will show you fucking bullies they would have guy’s like you selling drugs for them and sucking their dicks. For me police explorers kept me out of trouble and got to see a lot of things that were good. Your probably a trouble maker and I don’t fear the police I respect them because they deal with two faced people like you on a daily basis. I think you fear them

          • zero

            These cops aren’t stupid man they have family’s they want to go home to instead of being in the hospital getting a fucking finger put back on or stitches from some dog that jumped out of a car or ran through a screen door that the fucking owner couldn’t control.

          • Elena Ferrante

            Last time I checked, it was not against the law to tape. He should have gotten into his car and driven away, but he made a huge mistake, which cost his dog his life. And just for the record, Zero, I think your comments regarding the dog are inexcusable…

          • zero

            The last time I checked I wasn’t asking for your forgiveness, Like I said I would have shot that SOB five time’s and felt good about it. If your gonna cry about shit that happens to animals cry about the poor cattle that are brutally killed for you and your kids so you can have lunch at a burger joint or chickens or turkeys

          • memek78

            Look at what michael said that cop could have missed and maybe hit multiple people including himself and other officers not to even mention that they killed that dog right in front of the owner it doesnt get anymore heartless than that.

          • zero

            That officer did exactly what he was trained to do, everybody wants to shoot him for shooting an attacking dog, But you sure love him when he runs in your house that’s on fire to save your child…you fucking people crack my ass up!!

          • Reasonable289

            Because he job is to run to a house if he is there and save kids. The same as a bin man takes out bins, we don’t love him because he does. he does it for cash and kudos, the same as this sicko cop. Difference being you don’t see bin men killing peoples dogs and lying about it in court, trying to make out it was all in the name of law abiding citizens.

            Zero does your mother realise you are using the Internet?

          • zero

            Its not his job to run in the burning house you dumb fucker, Its the fire dept job in this country. His job is to keep people away from the burning house The cop that enters the burning house doe’s it because he probably has children at home or he is brave something you probably know nothing about , And I don’t know if my mother knows I’m on the internet or not but your mom knows I am I will let her get back at you when she is finished…you dumb fuck.

          • Hero

            Zero please take your tongue out of the PD’s ass, you’re making a mess.

          • zero

            You know people like you make me sick, You bitch about the fucking cops but you call them when somebody runs you off the road or calls you a name or some shit. Your a Fo real fucking pussy

          • Plus1

            You miserable illiterate piece of SHIT, the police are PUBLIC SERVANTS who are paid with tax dollars “to serve and protect” and enforce the law, not to intimidate and play God as if they are the law.

            Here’s hoping you end up in a hard core ass pounding FEMA Camp some day where you belong.

          • zero

            Your a real dumb fuck retard man. You better check your fucking grammar before you start calling anyone illiterate you goat fucker. I know now why you like animals. If the police are your problem why don’t you become one and try and fix the problems you find instead of bitching about them you fucking cry baby donkey fucker.

          • steve91s

            The dog is smart enough to know when his master is being arrested legally or illegally? Like you said, the dog could have done more damage than just jumping on the cop but that was the first thing he did. Nobody knows what he would have done next. He could have attacked an officer, he could have attacked a bystander, he could have ran to the house where the police were focused on. He could have done a lot of things, nobody knows what that would be. But he was a dog on the loose and he wasn’t exactly reacting predictably. The owner is not responsible. Those windows should have never been down that low.

          • Maureen

            What ever happened to shoot to harm instead of shoot to kill? They could have shot the dog in the shoulder and he would have lived! If they were so scared, shoot him in the shoulder. The dog lives, the police don’t get attacked. That said, after watching this whole video, I don’t think the man or the dog did anything that would cause a logical person to think “Hmm…I shouldn’t do that because it will get me arrested and get my dog shot.” I’m a big supporter of law enforcement officers that do their job well. They have an extremely hard job and I’m grateful they do it. I do have a problem with people who abuse their power and their positions, however, and shooting an animal without due cause is a huge red flag about much more serious concerns with these officers.

          • zero

            Why don’t you try asking about 75% of dead cops what ever happened to shoot to harm instead of shoot to kill…are you for real??

          • steve91s

            My only comment to that would be, it’s not that easy to shoot a human in the shoulder, much less a dog, when they’re moving around.

          • pits4everluvd

            Steve, you are very right the owner was not being responsible at all, and he put his dogs life in danger, by not thinking about what he was doing, he obviously knew there might be an issue, otherwise he would not have put his dog back into the car..however you are wrong in saying the dog was acting unpredictably….that dog was acting absolutely predictably…he was doing exactly what dogs are supposed to do..he was trying to protect his owner, and was not doing so in any “crazy” way, he sounded off plenty of time that he was upset, he hesitated a great deal before coming to his owners aide, and then he was only trying to get the cops away from his owner, he never pursued them not once, until the first shot was fired..then he jumped up in defense…the cops were in the wrong, but so was the owner, he put his dog in that position, and as much as the cops should have had a different reaction(like they could have stopped arresting the guy who was obviously cooperating with them and said, he man, please go contain your dog before he jumps out…bc it was OBVIOUS that was going to happen) but they didnt and as deplorable as their reaction was…in THIS case, it was the owner of the dogs fault…and the dog paid the ultimate price.

          • steve618

            I would argue that a cop should never be allowed to shoot a dog, simply because the rest of us mundane citizens are not permitted to carry guns to protect ourselves from them. We are forced to rely on other methods. Cops ought to do the same.

          • Brian

            The officer(s) could of easily ignored the dog and just turned their backs and walked away, the dog would have done NOTHING more than stand there barking… But instead of persuaded the dog by getting very close to it and even reaching for it (for whatever reason) right before the fired the shots.

          • tituslaney

            the racist black instigator caused this to happen.
            You people are so ignorant

          • Maureen

            All it requires is for the officers to say “Sir please control your dog.” An owner can command a dog to sit. An owner can also say “Please let me put my dog back in the car with the windows up.” Already in custody of the officers, it would have been an easy 15 second action that would have allowed this dog to live.

            As the owner of a large black dog, this is just so frightening to me. It would be a very easy thing for someone to look at my dog barking and assume he is being aggressive when he is being curious, playful, confused or scared.

            Shooting a dog, cat, or other defenseless animal should come with a much stiffer penalty than it does. As it stands, someone can shoot an animal and face no more than 3 years in prison (PC 597) and California has the STRICTEST laws. Seriously? That’s sick.

            Penal Code 597 PC California’s prominent animal cruelty law is a wobbler. If convicted of this offense as a misdemeanor, you face up to one year in a county jail and a maximum $20,000 fine.

            If convicted of this offense as a felony, you face 16 months, or two, or three years in the California state prison and the same maximum fine.

          • Elena Ferrante

            The dog didn’t have a chance. The officer’s actions were despicable.

          • zero

            If that dog was coming for one of your children you might think differently, but then again maybe not.

          • Commonsense

            Zero you are a worthless moronic tit. it’s no coincidence that your screen name is both your active braincell count, and the amount of people on this wall who actually agree with the rubbish you have written.

            One day you will be the wrong side of a bad cop and then you’ll understand. Until then I hope your arrogance doesn’t cause any harm to come to you, and that you are still living with your mumma

          • bunnyswanson

            When a dog is protecting it’s master, it is dangerous. But, i say again. WHAT IS THE HURRY???, EVEN K9 DOGS, protect its owner. Now i do not know about you, but a dog in my world is a member of the family. When you have the nerve to justify this shooting, when no real attempt was made to call SPCA, you have something wrong going on in your head.

          • OccupySac Ustream

            they shot the dog after it stopped barking and started sniffing the ground. that dog was not a threat. if it had wanted to hurt one of those officers it would have done so. thy took a minimum of three seconds after the dog stopped barking before shooting it, how is t still even being a threat while sniffing the ground? now if they would have shot the dog while it was still coming towards them and barking, one could say the dog was still a threat, and that the officers were in defending themselves, but they did not.

        • ComeOnMan

          Can I sick a dog on you so you can tell me what damage a dog like that can do?

          • bunnyswanson

            Hey,, the cops saw the dog. They saw the dog was a rottweiller. They watched the dog put into the goddam car in a hurry because they were walking up the side walk in an aggressive fashion and the man did what he should have done. LEFT THE WINDOW DOWN. Was there even time for the man to bend over and tie the god without the cops thinking he was GOING FOR A WEAPON or hiding?

      • AwwwYeah

        Oh, totally. Standing there video taping. What a position he put those cops in.

        • tituslaney

          if he was white I would be saying the SAME thing. This was an armed hostage situation these officers were dealing with and this racist punk picks this moment to practice “sidewalk” affirmative action politics and cause this to happen to his dog. Do you think there was another course of action? Do you expect the cops to take off running? lol


          Listen, there is a time to speak out and expose corruption within law enforcement I agree, but this is NO example

          • miss-information

            and also the suspect was already in police custody… read the article and dont just watch the video!

          • tituslaney

            yea, read someones biased opinionated inflammatory take on what happened. Watch and listen, don’t just read the propaganda

          • Sam Knudson

            I watched the dog back down when the owner ordered him too then the officer advanced on the dog in an extremely threatening manner while the other one man handled the owner. The dog felt threatened and reacted if the dog wanted to bite the officer he would have. That was a “get away” snap not an attack.

          • S.G.

            Cops have Tasers and Pepper Spray no REASON he couldn’t use that to subdue the dog or even his baton. There was are alternate methods he could have used, just as they use them against those who have weapons as well. Four to five bullets was excessive. They should have let the owner try and subdue his dog, the dog backed off when he heard his owner giving him commands, as seen in the video the dog backed off.

          • Seth

            I agree with S.G. whole-heartedly. Regardless of who was at fault for initiating the situation, there were alternate means that the officers could have used to subdue the dog. This was a case of ignorance, fear, and prejudice. I guarantee that if it was a labrador terrier, rather than a rottweiler, the officer would not have used his gun.

            Taser, pepper spray, physical force (possibly with baton), or even letting/making the owner handle the dog would have been a non-lethal solution. Instead, some stick-up-the-butt cop killed a dog for no reason.

          • Matthew R Webb

            I would like to see you fend off a Rottweiler with a stick. Just isn’t going to happen. Pepper spray will only cause the dog to flee, then become aggressive, and possibly attack someone simply trying to aid it. A zap from the Taser may have put the dog down for a second, but then he gets back up, is pissed, and on the attack. You can’t exactly cuff a dog and restrain them.
            In the end it is the mans fault for failing to secure his dog when he went to confront the cops.

          • Warren Crabb

            I agree. This idiot provoked the police at the wrong time and put his dog in harms way, unnecessarily.

          • as

            1st Amendment rights are now considered provoking police?

          • JB

            They could have just, oh I dunno let him leave. He didn’t do anything wrong after all.

          • Pixie

            I disagree. We need to press EVERY police encounter. Do not give them one inch of our rights. Draw the line and draw it fast.

            My first words are always: “Hello officer. I should let you know I have studied the law, and I know my constitutional rights.” It changes the discussion right away.

      • N.M. in Santee

        Music is way less distracting than a helicopter flying over. They have to endure that all the time. Its just an excuse to be worthless power hungry shitbags.

        • Proud GrandPa

          Since the LEOs reported that loud noise was a problem that placed their lives in danger, they were reasonable in ordering him to stop.


          No mention of the video as a basis for arrest. That is irrelevant. The man was unwise to taunt the cops while placing their lives in danger. Parking the car with the radio on and walking away was surely interfering. If I were on a jury, I’d vote to convict the miscreant.

          In this case the LEOs are correct. This was not about photos.

      • americanexile

        You’d think with fifty cop cars, and plenty of them standing around looking cool with their “assault weapons” (or is it “personal defense weapons”?), two could have dragged their asses over to the corner to set up a barrier or some type of clear boundary line.

        • bunnyswanson

          Arrogance is repulsive anywhere it is found. Especially in cops. Steroids are what I think is sending these men and women in combat mode over spilled milk.

      • anotheronewhorecords!

        why is he a useless punk?

      • Liege Maximo

        You’re a fucking moron.

  • Greg Dwyer

    I’m no cop apologist. The arrest was not warranted, but the dog jumped out of the car, approached the cops, and tried to bite them. I would have done the same thing in that situation.

    • Jude I⚡caяiot

      If they hadn’t been threatening the dog’s owner, it wouldn’t've happened. The dog saw a threat and moved in. That is what the cops are these days – a threat.

      • HpPavilion22

        the dog was fine until the cop slammed his machine gun into the guys stomach

        • Rob

          It was an AR-15, which is a semi-automatic rifle, not a machine gun. Other than that I agree with you.

      • Fotaugrafee

        Wish someone would shoot them!!

    • JoeyWall

      From Radley Balko’s Facebook:

      “More to the point, the police department could train its cops to deal with dogs without filling them with bullets. (BTW, this dog was defensive, not vicious.) I’ve interviewed the person who oversees dog training for the USPS. Postal workers deal with dogs every day. But they aren’t armed. Somehow, there hasn’t been a single case of a postal worker losing an arm to a rottweiler.”

    • Kevin Bankert

      You mean if you’d just wrongfully arrested a guy (i.e., assaulted and falsely imprisoned him) and his dog approached you, you’d shoot the dog? So kind of like the icing on the cake on a laundry list of crimes?

      • Difdi

        Hey, if you’ve just violated your oath, violated rights under color of law while armed and committed official misconduct, why NOT add a charge of animal cruelty?

    • Difdi

      The dog’s use of force was lawful, since the arrest was a felony (18USC242 — violating rights under color of law, enhanced with threat and use of dangerous weapon). The dog was attempting to stop a felon from getting away.

      It’s not self-defense when a felon shoots his victim or bystanders while trying to get away.

    • Joe

      The whole thing should never have went down. The man did nothing wrong. The police were handling the man in a way his dog probably felt threatening. So the loyal dog tried to protect his owner. It’s fucking sad, and it didn’t need to happen.

      • Proud GrandPa

        Joe. the man did something wrong. He obstructed police by making a loud noise which interfered with their ability to hear. He was incredibly stupid to leave the car radio on and walk toward the police. He got arrested. He broke the law.

        I agree with you. It did not need to happen. Read the article again. You will see this to be true. Thanks for posting the message, Joe.

    • Upyurs

      So you would have arrested a peaceful man for legally recording you in public, and then shot the man’s dog when, as a consequence of your unnecessary actions, the dog’s become aggressive? Wow, you’re a total asshole. A real peice of shit.

      • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

        There was something else to it. The others who were filming weren’t bothered.

        • upurs

          So the cops made an example of one man in front of others? (they probably chose him because he was bold and black and so a second class citizen?)