November 1st, 2013

Boston Police Accuse me of Witness Intimidation; Threaten to Charge PINAC Readers With Same (Updated II) 226

By Carlos Miller

In a sheer act of intimidation, the Boston Police Department is planning on filing a complaint against me for witness intimidation because I posted the name, email and phone number to a police spokeswoman, encouraging readers to ask her to drop the accusation against Taylor Hardy, whom she claims recorded her without consent.

Detective Nick Moore also assured me he would do the same to any PINAC readers if they continue to contact departmental spokeswoman Angelene Richardson as they have been doing since yesterday.

“I can go and get warrants for every person who called her,” he said during a telephone conversation earlier this evening. “It’s an annoyance. It’s an act of intimidation.”

I pointed out that the real intimidation is being conducted by Boston police, which is not only evident in the above video that prompted this whole debacle in which a burly cop threatens to arrest a burping videographer (not me) on battery charges when he is the one pushing the videographer, but is evident in their response to PINAC for posting the video back in August, which helped the video go viral.

Moore had emailed me this evening asking me to contact him, so I called him. After he assured me he wasn’t recording, he asked if I was recording and I told him no.

But I was taking notes as I normally do when I plan to write a story.

Moore described Richardson as a “poor clerk who picked up the phone” when Hardy called, only to be surprised when she learned that Hardy had uploaded a short video of the conversation that never even referred to her by name and had less than 100 views when she filed a complaint with him.

However, she is recognized as an official spokesperson for the police department by various media entities, including the Chicago Tribune, the Wall Street Journal and the Boston Globe, just to name a few that popped up during a quick Google search.

And she is described as an “executive secretary” for the Boston Police Department who made more than $76,000 last year, according to city documents posted online.

Moore said he is technically not charging me, but that I will be expected to attend a hearing in Boston in front of a magistrate judge, who will then determine if they have enough probable cause for an arraignment.

Hardy’s situation is the same, so I asked that he schedule us on the same day and he said he will try to do that. And maybe we can get a Boston videographer to record the hearing under the Massachusetts court rules.

Below is a screen shot of my intimidating tactics.

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UPDATE: Below is Detective Moore’s email that prompted the discussion. I wasn’t going to post it at first out of professional courtesy, but it wasn’t until several minutes into our conversation that he mentioned he was going to file a complaint against me for intimidation, which is something he should have mentioned jn the email or from the beginning of our conversation.

He’s not trustworthy at all because had I known he was going to file a criminal complaint against me, I would not have called considering anything I say could be used against me.

Also, if he really did have “numerous victims of serious crimes” who contact him on a daily basis, he wouldn’t be wasting his time with me or Hardy.

Mr. Miller,
Can you please contact me at your convenience at my office, xxx-xxx-xxxx. I realize that you do not trust the police and that is fine but I assure you I am not trying to jam you up. I just wish to have a cordial conversation with you and clear the air about a few things. Please do not post my office number or email to your website as I have numerous victims of serious crimes who contact me on a daily basis and It would not be fair to them or me if my voicemail box is full and they cannot get ahold of me.
My supervisors and the District Attorney’s office are aware of this request but I assure you that the conversation will just be me and you, not recorded, and again, Im not trying trap you into anything incriminating. As I relayed to Mr. Hardy I try to give everyone involved in my investigations the benefit of the doubt and speaking with you about this hopefully will accomplish that. Thank you.
Detective Moore
Boston Police Department

UPDATE II: Detective Moore also said that Richardson had filed the complaint with him more than a month ago where it sat on the bottom of his pile because he had more serious cases to investigate. He acknowledged that at the time, the video had less than 100 views and that it did not contain her name within the video or in the description (and it still doesn’t).

If his intention was not to intimidate, wouldn’t it just make sense to contact Hardy and ask him to remove the video considering there was no obvious malicious intent, instead of filing a felonious complaint that could imprison Hardy, a 25-year-old journalism student and former Police Explorer who once wanted to be a cop?

Richardson, who is frequently quoted in the media, is not the victim here. She is the bully, using her police connections to try to quash PINAC’s First Amendment rights to disseminate the news, question public officials and criticize them for making frivolous (and false) claims.

We will fight these accusations very aggressively. We will investigate them harder than they have investigated us. We will show them that we won’t be intimidated.

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  • Bridgett Cash

    If she is recognized as an official spokesperson she’s hardly a “poor clerk who picked up the phone.”

  • Elliott Whitlow

    They are going to have trouble meeting the requirements of the law

    (3) As used in this section, “harass” shall mean to engage in any act directed at a specific person or persons, which act seriously alarms or annoys such person or persons and would cause a reasonable person to suffer substantial emotional distress.
    I would think that right there is the massive hurdle, SERIOUSLY alarms.. I would suggest having Nick Moore served with a lawsuit.

    • Proud GrandPa

      Likely this hearing before the judge will allow them to force testimony from Carlos hoping he will inadvertantly say or do something foolish that the PD can twist to justify an arrest.
      .
      Humility and meekness as well as wisdom should guide one’s actions here. Just pass on this dubious opportunity. It can do nothing for photog rights. It is the wrong legal venue, but it could be costly legally and financially.

      • Herbert Napp

        Meekness? Meekness is what created a country full of emasculated males unable to ever defend or speak for themselves. Carlos is thankfully not one of these! And he is no aggressive fool either.

        This really doesn’t jive with your usual police apologist posts so I’m not sure why you’re all in favor of cowering in your house/apartment and hoping everything goes away, like the rest of America.

        • Fotaugrafee

          The boogieman always goes away when the sun rises!!! :o

        • Proud GrandPa

          In case you didn’t get it, arrogance makes one respond to a fool’s errand challenge. Meekness and humilty make one decline. Wisdom is knowing the difference.
          .
          The wisdom of my previous posts stands. You feeble attempts at criticism amuse me. Better stay with the junior high creative writing class you failed. Start over, Herbbie! You have much to learn… and so little skill or time.

          • Herbert Napp

            Fail.

          • Proud GrandPa

            Speak for yourself, Herb.
            .
            And don’t make the false accusation that I am a police apologist. In black and white extremist thinking, one may over-react to anything not 100% in agreement with your opinion. Maturity involves the ability to make an honest and balanced assessment of all facts… even those you don’t like, Herb.

          • Fotaugrafee

            “Wisdom of your previous posts”…??

            What the fuck are you smoking? :o

          • Proud GrandPa

            Troll Alert => fotagraffey
            Do not feed the troll. He never has anything worth reading.

          • Fotaugrafee

            “Anything” is apparently more than the “nothing” that you post. Get a clue, old white man.

    • Difdi

      I’m tempted to make that phone call myself, see if the phone system has a blurb about the call being recorded. If it doesn’t, ask whatever person who picks up if the calls are secretly recorded by police…and whether that’s legal?

      • Ian Battles

        Like the DA would have the balls to prosecute a cop for wiretapping

    • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

      You may want to check the case law on that. The “victim” doesn’t have to be alarmed at all – all they have to show is what a reasonable person would view as intimidation.

      • Elliott Whitlow

        Even if true wouldn’t it then track that Carlos would have to call and say something that could be construed as intimidating? I would think its hard to assign him blame for giving the number (which is listed) and suggesting others call to chat. Even with the indirect phrasing of the law.

        Can you answer the jurisdiction question? It would seem that NEITHER FL or MA have clear jurisdiction.

        • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

          There’s case law on indirect intimidation or harassment.

          Both states would have jurisdiction, but I agree that it’s not clear. Especially since there is not a case directly on point in Mass.

      • Guest

        You’re wrong. If you did indeed read the law, you were very careless with your reading.

        https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter268/Section13B

        “(3) As used in this section, “harass” shall mean to engage in any act directed at a specific person or persons, which act seriously alarms or annoys such person or persons and would cause a reasonable person to suffer substantial emotional distress.”

        If you were careful in your reading you would have properly understood that both parts -actually seriously alarming or annoying- AND -would cause a reasonable person to suffer substantial emotional distress- must be proved.

        • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

          Gee, that is not what the case law says. I guess I should ignore it and go with your version, which, since it is from the internet, must be correct.

          Or I could go with what Westlaw gives me.

          You know, like:

          Com. v. Casiano, 876 N.E.2d 475 (Mass. App. Ct. 2007) (Witness intimidation statute punishes anyone who willfully endeavors to
          intimidate a witness; it does not require that the intimidation be
          successful.).

          Com. v. Robinson, 825 N.E.2d 1021, 1028 (Mass. 2005) (The statute punishes anyone who “willfully endeavors” to intimidate a
          witness; it does not require that the intimidation be successful.).

          I guess that’s why at the very top of the statute, it says “or” in between intimidates and harasses. Do you think that may make a difference? I mean, since they are two different words and all, with two different meanings.

          Thanks for playing.

  • Rob

    I didn’t call earlier, but I will be calling first thing Monday morning. I’d like to see them try serving that warrant. Fuck Detective Nick Moore of XXX XXXX XXXX.

    • Shawn

      While I don’t agree with the Boston PD’s tactics, I think that it’s really inappropriate to be posting the home addresses of their officers and detectives, and can legitimately rise the level of a criminal offense.

      • psh

        Fuck Nick Moore who almost got Carlos run over. Let the citizens do with the info as they will.

        • Shawn

          It’s pretty weak to put out information and then disclaim responsibility when one knows full well that it’s likely to be used in an irresponsible manner.

          • Herbert Napp

            I think you’re weak.

          • Shawn

            You can think what you’d like, but it’s not true.

          • Fotaugrafee

            You act as if we should care? *shrug*

          • Shawn

            Two wrongs don’t make a right.

          • Herbert Napp

            Agree, don’t see the wrong though. If you work for the taxpayer, when people post your income(as in California) or your home address(almost everywhere) it’s for a reason. It’s because we are their employer. Does your employer know where you live, Shawn?

          • Nemo

            Posting the publicly available job-related contact information of a public employee is not a “wrong”, therefore your use of the cliche is flawed.

            Thanks for playing.

          • Jason Spencer

            haha, WIN ;)

      • Rob

        The information is public, so I will post whatever I wish. It would be inappropriate if I advocated violence towards the person, yet I did not advocate anything of the kind.

        • Shawn

          No you didn’t, but you’re obviously advocating that people contact and/or visit this detective, people who are most likely hostile toward either him or just the police in general. That’s irresponsible.

          • Rob

            Shawn, people are responsible for their own actions. I am in no way responsible for what another person does with information that can be found on the 1st page of google search results under this person’s name. If someone wants to write him a non-threatening informative letter condemning HIS threats toward Carlos, however, I see no harm in that whatsoever.

          • Proud GrandPa

            There is only one reason for the private home contact information of cops and that is harrassment. That is just wrong and detracts from the integrity of this website.
            .
            Do not pretend that you are innocent or have some honorable purpose.

          • Jason Spencer

            “non-threatening informative letter condemning his threats” – agreed

          • Herbert Napp

            You are a fucking disgrace. No one will “visit” this person. They would be crazy. These irresponsible, nazi pieces of shit locked down an entire city for one person they didn’t even find themselves. No one would be so stupid. But to expose, shame, and otherwise humiliate them on the internet or in public in a perfectly legal fashion(RIGHT NOW)? You bet.

          • Proud GrandPa

            Herb, often I agree with you, but am in disagreement on publishing home information for LEOs. Why? Cause there is only one reason to do so, and that is to facillitate harrassment or worse.
            .
            There is no valid legal benefit to doing so. There is no other reason than harrassment. That is dispicable.

          • Herbert Napp

            There’s no ill intent I think. If anything it would be the type of weird protest you’d see outside of some banker’s house. Picketing, whatever. It’s not even that big, I have no idea why some people are flipping out

          • bacchys

            As harassment is this Det.’s sole purpose in seeking these warrants, that’s not exactly a strong argument against doing so.

          • zapeee

            i will try to remember that when i read the “police log” in my local paper that gives names and addresses for people accused of crimes before they are even arraigned. are the police doing this to harass them?
            and how does it serve the public to have the police living in secret among us? heaven forbid one of them should violate a citizens rights and that citizen would know where to send the papers.

          • Youreanidiot

            YOU are despicable, get the fuck out of here. theyre talking about putting a man away for ten years, get fucking real GrandPa, this ain’t the 50s.

          • Fotaugrafee

            I guess people wouldn’t be “hostile” toward the police if they weren’t so aggressive & “hostile” with the people who pay taxes to afford them a paycheck. Now should they? Boo-hoo.

          • Jason Spencer

            irresponsible or even tasteless is NOT illegal NOR grounds for “probable cause”.. just two cents.. perhaps some hidden statue or agenda can be posted to prove me wrong? But forces people’s hands by using the system to put “false claims” on people sounds to me like a CRIMINAL OFFENSE…. sounds like false accusations can lead to a lawsuit and even jail time for this woman Angeline… and btw, I’ve been in technology for 12 years and have a masters in computers and business and make LESS than this “poor clerk / executive secretary” .. I’m calling BS on this especially when noted as a public person.

      • Difdi

        I’d love to see someone serve a warrant for that on the phone company for publishing telephone directories.

      • hardh8

        NO brain washed Shawn. It’s public info. Just like your name and address is. The police state goons don’t have any more rights than any other citizen. Grow up and buy yourself a clue.

        • Shawn

          So, you’d be okay with me posting your home and work addresses and your home and work phone numbers? Cool.

          By the way, I’m not brainwashed. I just think that there are other ways that things like this can be handled. Intimidation and harassment aren’t acceptable no matter who is doing it.

          • Fotaugrafee

            You’re a brainwashed sheep & in denial apparently.

          • Shawn

            Heh, not really. I had an issue with police last year. It didn’t result in an arrest, but I did get a bogus retaliatory traffic ticket. I contacted Carlos shortly after it happened, and explained the story in detail. He didn’t write about it because I wasn’t arrested, but you can confirm it with him. I also filed a complaint, albeit an informal one, against the ticketing officer, after I got the ticket “reduced” to a $145 parking violation. I would have fought it, but I had no evidence to back up my story. That’s why I’ve been contemplating a dashcam.

            Speaking of which, take a dashcam with you if you ever plan on going to or through Amherst, NY, and absolutely don’t go more than 9mph over the speed limit, as they very much enjoy the revenue that they get from tickets.

          • Herbert Napp

            All of us need dashcams everywhere now..

          • Proud GrandPa

            Yes, many people could benefit by dashboard cameras. In Russia they are standard due to the dishonesty of witnesses and some courts. The USA citizens and cops are more honest than those of many other countries, but dashcams may be one good way to protect us from bad cops and dishonest scam artists.
            .
            Herb, do you have one on your car? Any recommendations per brand or model? Thanks.

          • inquisitor

            Just use a go-pro with a good clipping attachment. also some extra velcro nylon straps for various mounting options.

          • Jason Spencer

            brand and models… include me too please! I really want to get one and the kinds i have seen have been a bit cheap and record in small intervals.. I would like something to consistently monitor my speed so when i get pulled over, i can provide the data to court showing the police lied, using speed as a false excuse to pull me over and help me, anything that occurs after that point of interaction with LEOs

          • Nemo

            Are you OK with cops posting the pictures and information of people accused of soliciting a prostitute, Shawn? Not convicted, just accused.

            How you believe that calling a public servant to express displeasure with their job-related actions is by definition “intimidation” or “harassment” is beyond me.

            If the side with the power gets to use intimidation and harassment, and the other side can’t even make phone calls, then regardless of what you say you find acceptable, de facto, you accept the people with power intimidating and harassing, because you’ve set out to handicap the victims from the outset. It is akin to taking two kids, a bully and his victim, and telling them “don’t fight. Fighting is never the answer”, and then only punishing the victim for fighting back.

            Your story about your problem with the cops might have been a net win, for you, but it was a net loss, for the nation as a whole, as it serves to reinforce the false notion that “the system works” just a tiny bit more.

            Now, if you wish to argue with me, remember to always do so with less vigor and passion than I use. Less irony and sarcasm, too. >:-)

          • Jason Spencer

            You’re information is already ALL over LinkedIn, Facebook, and whatever email clients you use AND it is easily attainable via the web. To note: you are now ALSO being tracked by PRISM ILLEGALLY so yes, when you consider public information, BELIEVE your information is available to everyone too… Where I would not do this, because it’s lacks my kind of FLARE and TASTE and TACT .. it is still NOT ILLEGAL. people really are blowing this WAY off the original topic of Angeline Richardson using inside connections to FALSELY ACCUSE … please stay on topic :)

      • Fotaugrafee

        I think you can eat a bag. These pricks arrest people & post their information in public records. Detective dickbag deserves to be part of the public record, too.

      • ceanf

        why? if they are good cops, and have nothing to hide, they should have nothing to worry about. nobody will be coming after them.

    • Ron

      Well, after that, I think I will call also.

  • http://www.dan-vidal.com/ Pod

    Oh please. Boston can barely keep it’s own shit in order, much less follow through with harassing Carlos, who is 1500 miles away.

    • matism

      Ah, but they have the phone numbers for MANY of their Brothers in Blue who will be glad to make Carlos’ life hell.

      • Fotaugrafee

        I think Carlos is quite callous to what they have & can throw at him by now. He’s only getting more versed in what they can & can’t do, he’s fairly civil about it, and they’re just going to make asses of themselves while he’s recording whatever the “Brothers in Blue” can dish out.

        • matism

          You might want to look up Jose Gurena. Or to keep it in Florida, Andrew Lee Scott or Marlon Brown. They, and a shitload of others, are dead. Murdered in cold blood by Florida’s Blue Wall. And their murderers were not touched.

  • Kenneth Bankers

    I think i will be calling now and for two reasons. One they would have a very hard time getting me . there to begain with. Second i cant afford to go as in I have NO INCOME. I would love to see them come get me.

    • http://www.dan-vidal.com/ Pod

      Agreed, Kenneth. Is your local PD going to serve some bullshit warrant from a bunch of drunken guineas in uniform up in Boston? Hardly. Boston PD, keep an eye on your own shit. Your people decide to riot when your own bloody sports team wins, yet you waste time and resources harassing Carlos…

      • Proud GrandPa

        I share your sentiments about the law, but may I urge you please to show respect for Irish and other people. Thanks. Sterotypes are behind us now. Thank you for consideration of others, Pod.

        • Ian Battles

          Hey hey hey, Guinea is a slang term for Italian, not Irish. Us Irish lads are called “micks”

          • inquisitor

          • Proud GrandPa

            Oh no! This is the stuff I was hoping we’d avoid. Avert my sensitive eyes. Awwwh!!!
            .
            I hope we will not use any such ethinic or other slurs. Thanks everyojne.

          • 5oh4

            You managed to misspell ethnic as well as everyone, Gramps. Poor language skills speak badly for one’s I.Q. and attentiveness in school. It means the student failed grade school spelling. Obviously a product of public education as run by the NEA!

          • Proud GrandPa

            Oh no! This is the spelling error I was hoping to avoid.
            .
            Poor English (syntax) speaks badly for one’s I.Q> etc. but minor spelling errors does not! As an excellent student and master of the language, I am proud to say so.
            .

        • Fotaugrafee

          Yes, Jesus told you so…right? :D

      • cengime

        Hardy? Moore? These are drunken Anglo-Saxons, thank you very much.

      • Fotaugrafee

        What part of the country are you from?? Boston is known for it’s IRISH roots, not known for “guineas” you dimwit.

        • Proud GrandPa

          Troll Alert =>> Fotagraphee
          Personal attack

          • Fotaugrafee

            THICK-AS-MUD DUNCE ALERT =>> Proud GrandPa
            Just ‘sayin.

  • Douglas Hester

    What’s Moore’s number as well?

  • Proud GrandPa

    From the article–

    Moore said he is technically not charging me, but that I will be expected to attend a hearing in Boston in front of a magistrate judge, who will then determine if they have enough probable cause for an arraignment.

    Carlos,
    You realize you don’t have to attend this kangaroo court, don’t you? You can also send a representative such as your attorney or a local attorney.
    These hearings are a judicial version of a fishing expedition. If they thought they had enough facts to arrest you, you’d be in cuffs by now if you lived in the same state. Maybe they are planning a little surprise for you at the airport in Boston and the hearing is only ‘bait’ to trick you into the trap.
    What does your attorney, Red, advise? Please be cautious.

    • Carlos_Miller

      I know I don’t have to attend, but that will lead to an arraignment, which I would have to attend or have a bench warrant placed on me.

      I haven’t discussed the latest development with attorneys yet, but I will.

      • Shawn

        I hope that they’re going to pay your travel costs.

        • matism

          They aren’t about to do that, but they will be glad to provide him free room and board, if they get the chance.

          • inquisitor

            …with complimentary shackles.

          • matism

            While screaming “Stop resisting! Stop resisting!” as they beat him to a pulp. And then shoot him 72 times because they thought his cell phone was a gun.

          • Herbert Napp

            They wouldn’t dare risk doing that… to Carlos, anyway.

          • matism

            You don’t know them very well, do you?

          • inquisitor

            Risk? What risk?

            There is no risk when you accidentally slipped, fell and broke your neck in their jailhouse.

      • Difdi

        So you petitioned for redress of grievances, and now you get to travel many, many miles at your own expense or you will have an arrest warrant for committing a crime in a state you didn’t set foot in? That’s insane.

        • inquisitor

          …and I hope Carlos catches it all on video because this will be an interesting adventure into…legal land.

        • Fotaugrafee

          I agree. I don’t quite see how that sticks. I’m hoping (partly betting) that any reasonable attorney will tell you exactly what ol’ Gramps told you, they’re trying to get you there so they can arrest you. The old “coming out of your house” tactic.

        • MongoLikesCandy

          So even if unbeat the charge, you’re still stuck w the travel and legal bill. Unless u sue this seems like a no-win scenario

          • Jason Spencer

            agreed, rock and hard place… document, record, post, then sue (including travel expenses, time lost, grievances / deformation of character)

      • Jason Spencer

        I would definitely attend too.. or they might try to vote / cast blame in your absence and use it as a tactic against you… I would sit there, record everything / take notes / pay a professional to take notes / and bring everything to your attorney after… you can simply state, “I have the right to remain silent” (out loud) and let them incriminate themselves with their outlandish accusations. Wishing you the best!

  • jimmarch

    Drat that pesky “first amendment right to petition for redress of grievance” thingamajig…

  • NorthoftheBorder Gold

    what’s with the constant belching?

    • inquisitor

      I believe the belching is just another first amendment protected expression.

  • Bob

    Encourage the Boston Herald to do a story on this, contact form – http://bostonherald.com/about/contact

  • Ron

    You guys must be doing something right to get this attention. Whats that saying?

    First they ignore you,

    Then they laugh at you,

    Then they fight you,

    Then you win.

    Keep up the good work.

    • kim b

      or get shot or thrown in jail– i know, i know, sorry
      just sayin

  • Clark

    These are the same idiots who shut down an entire city over two Russian wimps who killed a grand total of three people. And didn’t actually find them in the locked down zone, and didn’t actually find them during the lock down, and didn’t actually find them themselves.

    • Fotaugrafee

      BOSTON STRONG!!!!

      Now open your backpack so Detective Nickbag can search it for you!! :P

  • Luc

    Boston Police are a bunch of Keystone Cops. Remember the 2007 Lite-Brite bomb scare? Or the Star Simson LED bread board incident at Logan. These morons can barely find their own dicks on a good day.

    Detective Nick Moore is just another asshole Boston Cop.

    • Ian Battles

      I remember when Boston PD wrote Simon Glik a check for $140,000 for arresting him for filming…

      • matism

        I believe you will find that it was NOT the “Boston PD” who wrote that check, but was instead the Mere Citizens of Boston who did so. While the Boston PD had themselves a good laugh.

        • Fotaugrafee

          Oh well, that’s tough shit isn’t it?

          I guess when the “mere citizens” get tired of paying out huge sums of money for the insolence of their police force, maybe they’ll start putting a fucking leash on them like they should!!

          • matism

            Mere Citizens do not get a choice.

          • Fotaugrafee

            No, weak citizens do not get a choice. And people like who apparently cower down are part of the problem.

  • Truth For Students

    I think this further reinforces my previous advice about making phone calls to inconsequential people.
    What was your advice Carlos…”screw that advice”.
    Enjoy your trip north to Boston.
    Are attorney fees a write off for PINAC ?

    • Carlos_Miller

      Fuck you and your advice.

      • Truth For Students

        I think we should use this opportunity as a learning experience for all level headed and rational people out there who are engaged in citizen journalism.
        Don’t follow the advice of Carlos Miller.
        His response to my post should expose his respect and grasp of intelligent discourse and his concern for journalists themselves.
        Carlos Miller will give you bad advice and he is an example of what happens when you take bad advice.
        Keep us updated with your case Carlos.

        • Carlos_Miller

          My response was to your smugness. Nobody likes an annoying “I told you so” from somebody who believes their advice is gospel

          I play by my own rules. For better or worse. It has gotten me this far and it will get me further.

          This little issue with BPD is going to be much more of a learning experience for them than it is for me. Just wait and see.

          • SlimJim

            I like the sound of that. Sad how that “color of law” keeps fucking up their qualified immunity.

          • Truth For Students

            I know you play by your own rules.
            My advice is for the smarter and more disciplined readers out there who are engaged in citizen journalism and not simply self promotion.
            Most people don’t like to get arrested in order to bring attention to their website. For those people I offer sound advice.

          • hazy

            No you offer arm chair politics from the comfort of your own home without risking or sacrificing anything. Go fuck yourself keyboard warrior.

          • Fotaugrafee

            That’s because most people, like you apparently, are fucking sheep. They don’t believe in a little sacrifice to fight for their rights or their cause.

          • Proud GrandPa

            Carlos, why such an intense reaction? Just thinking that you deep down realize he may be right or partially right, and you are unable to figure how to weigh the two paths for PINAC. Maybe it would be wise to take criicism graciously and then ask your trusted counsellors for their take on the criticism. Otherwise you could turn out to be isolated and get into trouble. Just saying…

          • AlexW

            I agree. I believe accepting some
            critics will refine the PINAC into a great organization. Since, you
            guys are experts in the field of citizen journalism. It make sense
            that experts would not make layperson mistakes. Just saying…

            with respect

            -AlexW

        • Charles D Bingham

          What I find disturbing is your defending the actions of the Boston Police Department and telling us to kowtow to the wise overlords, out of fear of repercussions to standing up to the for our rights. An honorable person would be defending individuals rights to, petition government for redress of grievances.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_petition

          • Truth For Students

            I’m not sure how you could infer from what I wrote that I was defending the Boston PD.

          • Proud GrandPa

            Yeah, I noticed CDB’s unwarranted conclusion. What was he thinking? I didn’t see anthing in your words to justify his accusation. More evidence of illogic by some PINAC posters. Figures…

        • Ian Battles

          Bad advice?

          The dude keeps winning in court.

    • Charles D Bingham

      Sure attorney fees are a write off for PINAC. As sad as this might be to say: this is normal for any news agency. They could be fighting for records or defending against false charges from corrupt police and/or DA’s, all in a normal days work.

      • Proud GrandPa

        Ofcourse this works only when the news agency actually turns a profit and has some money from which to make a write-off. It is easy for you to send Carlos to court to get arrested for nothing. Don’t egg Carlos on. Bad legal strategy…

    • Rail Car Fan

      If you don’t have anything intelligent to say, then don’t say anything!

      • Fotaugrafee

        He sure thinks he does, and he’ll tell you all about it in shameless “self promotion”.

    • Fotaugrafee

      Are you a pole smoker?…a peter puffer?

      • Proud GrandPa

        Troll Alert => Fotaugrafee
        Ignore trolls.

  • Jeffrey Marcus Gray

    I think I will send the Boston PD a care package. In this care package I will include a bunch of pacifiers for these whiny cry babies to suck on. I will also include some diapers and wet wipes since they seen to shit their pants at the slightest challenge of their authority. I’m calling Monday.

    • inquisitor

      …they also like those mini-donuts and manilla envelopes filled with cash

    • Fotaugrafee

      Wow, this looks like a NEW Jeff. I like it!! :D

    • JimBill

      How about a few straws to help them suck it up.

  • srandallthomas

    LMAO! I love it. Get ‘em Carlos.

  • Samual Hambrick

    “My supervisors and the District Attorney’s office are aware of this request but I assure you that the conversation will just be me and you, not recorded,…”
    Ummm…maybe not by him. I’m sure the NSA is listening in. Maybe they can provide you with a copy of the conversation. The NSA number is 301-688-6524. I’m sure they will be happy to help out.

  • Guest

    If it were me, I would talk to an Attorney who is Licensed in the State of Massachusetts. I would want to talk to an Attorney at law before talking to any police.

  • Rusty Gunn

    They’re grabbing at straws.

  • Jed

    How to parse Copspeak. It’s really easy:

    “I am not trying to jam you up.”

    - I am trying to jam you up.

    “I assure you that the conversation will just be me and you,
    not recorded”

    – I’ll be recording the conversation and we’ll use it against you if we can.

    “Im not trying trap you into anything
    incriminating. ”

    - I’m trying to trap you and make you incriminate yourself.

    See? Easy.

    • inquisitor

      Excellent Jed…excellent translation.

    • matism

      Do you not yet understand that “Law Enforcement” in this country is not required to tell the truth to Mere Citizens? Hell, even under oath, between 20% to 50% of the evidence and testimony they give in court is “testilying”, by the estimate of the very judges and prosecutors who benefit from same!

    • jcfromnj

      You know, once you understand “copspeak” everything else fall in place…LOL

  • http://ftp-ftf-tosiar.clanteam.com/ John Stewart

    How does one know when a pig is lying? Their mouth is open (other than for breathing).

  • MarkKalan

    DON’T GO TO BOSTON! – they’re conning you into showing up so they can arrest you and claim that they need to keep you in jail as a “flight risk.” If they indict you then its another story.

    • Carlos_Miller

      Yes, I agree with you, Mark. I don’t trust them at all.

      • Kaemaril

        I’m a bit confused by “I’m not technically charging you”. How does that work?

        Also, cops threatening a well-known outspoken blogger on a freedom of speech issue? Could popehat get involved? :)

  • ray brown

    My question to Detective Moore is whether the call was “audio recorded” or contemporaneously published-in effect allowing others to listen in. The lady’s complaint may be that the call was published not recorded. I’m just trying to point out why the Feds require that speakers may have a reasonable expectation of privacy both subjectively and objectively. In short no one has a reasonable expectation of privacy in talking with someone or who may overhear. This is Massachusetts’ statutory failing. Detective Moore may want to delve into technologies involved so as not to be blindsided in court. This may be more than a straightforward audio recording case

  • RSean5

    I’m 700 miles away….I might just make a call Monday morning. Eventually these mouth breathers will recognize that while they are involved in their official capacity they are subject to scrutiny. This includes photography. Why on earth would they believe otherwise? Especially, if they have nothing to hide. They are famous for saying “you have nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide.” ~~~Only good things can come from a situation like this.

  • zedge

    The way I see it, the man with the camera is witnessing a police action and was being intimidated by the cops, so who’s intimidating wittnesses?

    • inquisitor

      Assault and battery by the cop on the photog right on video and the cop is threatening to lie and trump up a false charge of assaulting police officer.

      Who are the criminals?

  • Freedom_Fighter_of_America

    It’s called public scrutiny and you are subject to heavy ammounts of it when you fuck up your job and violate citizens INALIENABLE rights. You people as government are not granted the authority like you think you are to infringe upon the rights of others to monitor your actions on the job. You may not like that fact, but that is tough shit. You either accept the heavy ammount of scrutiny and change to make sure you are in compliance with the law and the peoples orders, or you get the hell out.

  • JdL

    These pathetic cowards who call themselves cops seem determined to shred any last vestiges of respect that anybody has for them. Sorry you’re caught up in this, Carlos, but I know you’ll comport yourself well. Give the bozos hell!

    • inquisitor

      This is why the guy recently unloaded on TSA at LAX.

      Expect to see more disenfranchised, impoverished and fed up with political corruption Americans seek more direct and drastic measures.

  • hazy

    How is she a witness? Do they understand what a witness even is? What if people call from a burner, are they going to try and find out the caller then?

    • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

      Do you?

      She is a witness because she made the initial complaint and would be expected to testify in court.

      Duh.

      • hazy

        Is she a witness in a court case? Was she told not to testify? That is the basis of witness intimidation, to prevent witness testimony.

        • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

          Commonwealth v. Hardy

          • hazy

            Was she told not to testify?

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            She doesn’t have to be told not to testify. That’s not an element of the offense.

          • hazy

            I think you realize the nature of your broken argument is that there was no original court case she was to be a witness for. There is a difference between intimidation and witness intimidation.

            So Johnny Law, do you think you can fool people by saying you’re a law student? Half the time the things you post are just asinine.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Gee, another whackjob that needs educating.

            Com. v. Rosario, 988 N.E.2d 456 (Mass. App. Ct. 2013) (Witness intimidation may occur before defendant is indicted on the underlying charge).

            Com. v. Belle Isle, 694 N.E.2d 5 (Mass. App. Ct. 1998) (Offense of witness intimidation may occur before police are even notified of an offense to be investigated).

            Com. v. King, 866 N.E.2d 938 (Mass. App. Ct. 2007) (Criminal investigation need not have commenced at time of defendant’s
            intimidating action to support conviction for intimidation of a witness).

            Gee, case law shows that not only does there not have to be a court case yet, just that she’s a witness to an an offense who could be called to testify in some future case, i.e., Com. v. Hardy.

            Thanks for playing.

          • Carlos_Miller

            It’s too bad you can’t charge cops with witness intimidation when they try to intimidate a witness from video recording a crime scene as that cop did in the top video.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            I agree, unfortunately that’s not how it works.

            I also think they should be charged criminally when they delete video, but we also know how that goes.

            I know that you already are aware, but I am pulling for both you and Hardy. Give ‘em hell.

          • inquisitor

            This was a very educational post ex-cop…I appreciate it.

          • Rail Car Fan

            THAT’s the first time I’ve ever heard/read something half way decent coming from “JL(?)”!

            Rail Car Fan

          • Michael Turcotte

            What about “Offense against intellectual property”? Some states have some form that includes destruction and heavy fines.

          • hazy

            The break in logic is that the defendant should have a belief that his intimidation would obstruct justice in either an active or a future investigation.

            Preventing the posting of public contact info of a police representative. I’m gonna say that’s not what the spirit of the witness intimidation law was designed for.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            All nice and good, but it is not what case law says, and none of that matters as to court.

          • hazy

            In Com v. King, King already perpetrated an armed robbery. His intimidation was seen as witness intimidation because he threatened to kill the victim and his family. So it’s nice that you cite those cases but those were serious crimes while Carlos just posted an officer’s office number for others to call and complain. How are these cases you’ve cited anything near what is happening here?

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            You look to case law for the rule.

            Here, the rule is simple, and is spelled out by the court.

            The act of intimidation can occur prior to formal charges being filed, or before the offense is even investigated by the police.

            I could pull up other cases that state the same rule, but the cases I cited are the ones that state the rule very clearly.

            You had questioned how there could be intimidation prior to charges being filed (the original case statement you made above). I explained it, and cited case law supporting my position.

            It’s not my fault that you don’t understand how the legal system works, nor what significance of case law is. I’m also not going to spend a lot of time teaching it.

          • hazy

            You’re bringing up case law where people committed burglaries and armed robberies and claiming there’s relevancy. I’m saying there’s not. The witness intimidation law was to prevent people from obstructing an investigation. Proving motive and intent is part of the analysis of gaining a conviction under the witness intimidation law. If a person has not committed any other offense, witness intimidation should really be classified as threat of assault/battery/harassment

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            I understand what you are saying.

            You are not correct.

            Thanks for playing.

          • hazy

            That set of analyses is in Massachusetts jury instruction for witness intimidation cases.

          • bacchys

            He makes a strong point, actually. There’s no underlying crime for which this person is a witness. While witness intimidation can occur even before the police are aware the crime has occurred, a crime has to *actually* occur. Richardson isn’t a witness to anything to anything in this: she’s a public servant taking complaints.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            LOL.

            The underlying crime is the Unlawful Interception of Communication that is potentially being filed against Hardy.

            I know that many don’t want to believe that it is a crime, but in the real world Hardy needs to be prepared for the fact that he could be facing a felony conviction.

            He doesn’t need a bunch of “rah-rah” supporters, he needs an attorney who will look at the facts and the law, and give him good advice.

          • bacchys

            Nah, I was confused. I had read the above thinking Hardy was being charged with witness intimidation for recording.

          • Rail Car Fan

            I wondered where “Johnny (Cops Can Do NO Wrong!) Law” has been keeping himself lately?

            So much for “ExCop-LawStudent” being unbiased when it comes cops vs the public!

            Rail Car Fan

  • Name

    Yeah, this was not a smart move. You should not have tried to get a witness to change their position even if she is lying. Any lawyer could have told you that. If you have evidence of her lying, then give it to the court.

  • Truth For Students

    The irony of someone claiming their First Amendment rights and deleting comments at the same time.

    • Voice-Of-Concern

      First Amendment covers government censorship. Did you ever take 7th grade civics? You keep getting very basic stuff totally wrong.
      A private blog can do as it sees fit

    • Carlos_Miller

      Who is deleting your comments? Just because your comments are getting down-voted doesn’t mean I’m deleting them.

    • inquisitor

      I have posted some pretty objectionable shit on this site and never had a comment deleted.

      • Proud Grandpa

        But you get a lot of your posts unread.

        • inquisitor

          Only unread by cop bootlickers like yourself…I can cope.

  • Rhys

    this pisses me off. good luck

  • rick

    “…Richardson had filed the complaint with him more than a month ago…”

    In addition to other public records requests find out how long they keep their phone recordings. Assuming they are recorded, wouldn’t it be a terrific coincidence if non-emergency calls are deleted about a month later?

  • Herbert Napp

    LOL, IS THIS FUCKING GESTAPO IDIOT SERIOUS?

  • Herbert Napp

    I wonder what the detective will do when Matt Drudge puts his spotlight on this bullshit? Please, oh please, try legal action against Mr. Drudge. Good luck guys!!!

    • Proud GrandPa

      It’s been several days now, but The Drudge Report has not picked up the story. Matt does some other photograph rights stories.

      • Herbert Napp

        The “event” hasn’t happened yet. Carlos has been directly linked to by Drudge several times… That and you have Terry Mcawful’s campaign and tons of other political fodder that overshadow stuff like this right now

  • ram

    i like the idea of what your doing, but after watching the video the camra man was asking for it, by being a little to smart ass- like most people im not crazy about cops- but i think it could be done in a more proffitional manner would get better results-

    • ts

      I don’t know where to start….”camera man asking for it”, “being a little to smart ass”, or the word you choose to be the description of how a person should act in a more competent way is spelled wrong. Maybe you should be more proffitional. You do know, the little red bar that pops up under words when you are typing comments are there for a reason, right?

      This is not about being a spelling Nazi. Its about your criticism of the person making the video. You expect him to be more professional in dealing with the police.
      You on the other hand can’t even come up with one correct sentence in your criticism about being more professional.

      It just gets me how these armchair citizens even bother typing comments. It’s like you are criticizing yourself.

  • Guest

    It’s the DA stupid. I mean that in the nicest way. Pinac and others keep focusing on the police. The schmuck cop that makes the arrest. The misinformed idiot that files a complaint. But no charges are ever brought unless the the DA says so. We’re missing the forest for the trees. It’s the DAs. Their office, their records, their actions that need to be exposed and reported when these false charges are brought.

    • Herbert Napp

      You’re missing the trees.

    • jcfromnj

      Yep…..the term is called a “parallax view” twist your neck in a different angle, and you see things in a new perspective….

  • Herbert Napp

    Seriously. Start sharing this shit. Ben Swann, Reason, any outlet you can think of where it won’t be glazed over.

  • Ryan French

    “I can go and get warrants for every person who called her.”

    Good luck on getting people extradited to Boston. After the charges are dropped the locals are going to ask why so much taxpayer money was spent on weak charges. Hopefully they will keep their egos in check before the department ends up on national news.

    If she cannot perform her duties as a public information officer and responding to media and public information requests then she needs to be removed from her position until the trial. It’s quite this simple.

    Keep us posted on the “hearing.” If they do anything stupid I might have to take a trip up there. This behavior should not be tolerated and they need to be made aware, go ahead and issue that warrant.

  • Eric

    If there talking to you, they are lying to you. They only have one job and that is to arrest people by any means

  • Herbert Napp

    You can’t put the internet or independent non MSM journalism back in the box, LEOs. You will not go unchecked.

  • harry balzanya

    Every time boston cops from here on out say no when a supervisor is requested after using the color of law to deny rights that no and any statements made by officers will be witness tampering.

  • Fotaugrafee

    Detective Nick Moore can eat the smegma off my hairy balls after not showering for a week.

  • Haeshu

    Police lie. Don’t talk to the police under any circumstances. Ever.

  • c

    I don’t know if they have any plans on coming for me, but it’s not like I can stop them if they want to bad enough. 2,300 miles bad enough. And I’m still trying to figure out what this whole thing is about. If it’s the PR clerk, I listened to the audio (I think), and I didn’t hear any problem. If it’s Jay’s video of the Boston PD’s misconduct, they can’t touch us. We’re only witnesses to their criminal misconduct. So who’s harassing the witnesses? Not us.

    • Guest

      Why would they have to come for you? Maybe they could just give you a phone call and schedule