November 11th, 2013

Aggressive Atlantic City Cop With Long Lawsuit History Sued Again for Confiscating Camera 180

By Carlos Miller


We first heard about Atlantic City police officer Sterling Wheaten in September when a surveillance video emerged showing him sic his dog on a man who was already getting brutalized by five other cops.

Wheaten, it turned out, had been sued three times over the three previous years for abusing citizens and had been investigated countless times by internal affairs, as if that ever makes a difference.

Atlantic City police officer Sterling Wheaten

Atlantic City police officer Sterling Wheaten

Now he is not only being sued by the man whom he sicced his dog on, David Castellani, he is being sued by a woman who claims he assaulted her before ripping the phone out of her hand as she tried to record him. She claims he handed the phone to another officer, who walked away with it, only for her never to see it again.

According to the Press of Atlantic City: 

Wheaten is accused of assaulted Janine Costantino, of Bayonne, as she used a camera phone to record an altercation last summer between relatives and police inside an elevator at Caesars Atlantic City, according to a civil suit filed last week in U.S. District Court in Camden.

The lawsuit claims Wheaten illegally confiscated the phone before passing it to an unidentified third party who “either destroyed or secreted the evidence.”

The lawsuit states that on July 20, 2012, 11 months before Castellani’s arrest, Costantino and several relatives went to Dusk nightclub in Caesars to celebrate her brother’s 21st birthday. According to the suit, Costantino and her sister returned from the bathroom sometime after midnight to find officials physically removing her brother and brother-in-law.

Ten people, including the four clubgoers, police and security guards, “jammed into an elevator” leaving Dusk. Once inside, two security personnel, who aren’t identified in the suit, held Costantino’s brother-in-law in a headlock and the group engaged in “pushing and shoving” within the confined space.

“As full on chaos developed inside the elevator, (Costantino) began to video the incident with her cell phone,” the suit reads. When the elevator doors opened, Wheaten allegedly shoved Costantino out and she fell into a wall. He then allegedly grabbed her brother by the head and tackled him to the ground.

At some point during the altercation, Costantino told the crowd she was recording the incident “in an effort to stop the assault on her brother.”

“Give me the phone, you (expletive),” Wheaten said, according to the suit, turning his attention to Costantino.

With one security person pinning Costantino’s right shoulder, Wheaten pulled her left arm and smashed her head against the ground while continuing to yell expletives at her, the suit alleges. Costantino let go of the phone after Wheaten began twisting her left hand.

“Wheaten continued to force his knee into (Costantino’s) back while attempting to review the footage on the phone,” the suit reads.

He then allegedly threw the phone against a wall, but it ricocheted back and was retrieved by Costantino. At that point, Wheaten began to beat her again and, again, she relinquished the phone, according to the suit.


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  • Guest

    Any case law out there where a department / city / state was sued for contributory negligence or conspiracy (or something else, not a lawyer) for allowing someone with complaints / convictions / settlements from continuing to serve in law enforcement?

    • paschn

      Administrative Liability. When a corporation knew or should have known that an employee wasn’t executing his responsibilities legally/properly and kept that employee on the payroll, they become liable for all or a portion of any damages awarded via a civil action.
      On his own, the “stain” is personally liable. I would like to see him, (rather than simply fired), sued into poverty for ever, drawn and quartered, his scrotum nailed to a shed work bench then have the shed set afire with his citizen victims outside with double-odd buckshot to insure that, once his microscopic genitalia breaks free, justice is still completed by the injured public waiting outside. A video recording of the act of justice reproduced and sent to all cop-shops with a short statement….”Justice.Any questions”?…..other than that? I’m open to suggestions..

      • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

        Gee, then I guess it’s a good thing that a city is a political subdivision and not limited to just a corporate viewpoint.

        As for being personally liable? Sure, but he is also indemnified by the city, so taxpayers are on the hook for any judgments.

        • paschn

          Liability policies aren’t “open end”. There’s a cap. If the judgment goes beyond that, the sycophant-in-blue could well end up with his spawn and mother-of-spawn in one of the tent cities or storm drain communities the swine such as he runs interference for. As for;

          “Gee, then I guess it’s a good thing that a city is a political subdivision and not limited to just a corporate viewpoint.”
          I assume it all depends on which CAFR you’re looking at….. Gee.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Actually in most states, it is not a “liability policy” that is in question. Usually state law requires that the city totally indemnify the officer, so the insurance protects the city. If the policy doesn’t cover the judgment, then the city has to come up with the remainder, not the officer.

            LOL, do you really think that the CAFR matters? Really?

            Besides, you can’t get at the city most of the time anyway. It’s called sovereign immunity.

          • paschn

            The following from Human Rights Watch;
            As outrageous as it is, your right.

            “Gannett News Service published a series of investigative articles in March 1992 examining the fate of police officers named in one hundred civil lawsuits in twenty-two states in which juries ordered $100,000 or more to be paid to plaintiffs between 1986 and 1991.166 The awards from the lawsuits totaled nearly $92 million dollars. Of 185 officers involved in these cases, only eight were disciplined. No action was taken against 160, and seventeen were promoted. The reporter concluded, “[T]axpayers are penalized more for brutality than the officers responsible for the beatings.”167″
            This makes this sort of outrageous behavior even more insidious. It also makes clear that these cops are stinking thugs working FOR the contemptible powers-that-be. Further, in light of this, it’s even more important that we find the rusty nails, hammer and accelerant and using them all the way up the governmental ladder.
            As for my reference to CAFR, it’s more a question than statement. trying to make sense out of the conflict of interest investments made by most municipalities maintaining 2 sets of CAFR, one showing plus or minuses pertaining to use of tax money culled from the public, the other, (not so public set) that shows the investment of tax revenues in PRIVATE corporations, where the profits go and why it’s not used to offset shortfalls in revenue rather than increasing the tax burden of the public. I was under the impression that entities who keep 2 or more sets of “books” were violating RICO and prosecuted. Apparently sovereign immunity covers them even in morally questionable, (if not illegal) investments of tax dollars? The more a person looks into the covert machinations of a crooked “sovereign” entity in this cesspool, the more it appears we’re all victims of being ridden hard and put away wet when it comes to being denizens of the “land of the free…..”

          • Rail Car Fan

            Paschn…

            Paragraphs are your friend…

            Rail Car Fan

          • jcfromnj

            In spite of the learned counsel’s LOL comment above, the CAFR is the Rosetta Stone of where they hide your money. These liability payouts are now a line item in the budget. Don’t listen the the cop/lawayer spin, it’s where they hide evidence…

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            No, CAFR is the altar of the whackjobs.

        • jcfromnj

          A good example of this is Robinson vs Fetterman in PA.The judge in that case fined the PA State Troopers personally in the reward. THATS the direction to go. Google it…..

  • JoeyWall

    Any case law out there where a department / city / state was sued for contributory negligence or conspiracy (or something else, not a lawyer) for allowing someone with complaints / convictions / settlements to continue serving in law enforcement?

    • Sam

      I’m not going to go to deep into case law, but it potentially does help build a case against a municipality and hold it liable as a ‘person’ in a $1983 lawsuit by showing that it had a ‘policy or custom’ of allowing such actions to occur. Generally see Monell v. Department of Social Services and the following links:

      http://federalpracticemanual.org/node/49

      http://nahmodlaw.com/2010/12/15/new-supreme-court-municipal-liability-decision-los-angeles-county-v-humphries/

      • Difdi

        Here’s a thought: Do asset forfeiture laws REQUIRE that the lawsuit against a piece of property be brought by a prosecutor? If not, then once you establish a pattern of corrupt behavior by a municipality, you could theoretically sue town hall itself for ‘conspiring’ to allow them to do it…

        • Vunderlak

          No, not in most states.It can be a civil case, against the officer personally, but in order to stick it to the system for violation of the constitution and civil rights, you have to sue the department he was representing.Now, what do you think the odds of that happening are, after what we see going on everyday. Also, I am pretty sure a special prosecutor would be required. I say that because where I live, our mayor and 13 police officers were indicted for kiddy porn, and they had to bring in both IA and the FBI and assign a special prosecutor just to charge them. About 10 years ago. Who knows what the law is now?

  • TimSto

    Carlos,
    The information you have posted is a, you said-he said, report. I do not doubt the report, but Caesar’s WILL have video, please keep you eyes open for it. Even better have Joel do open records for New Jersey on the video, if the police retrieved it?

    • Sam

      It is not a ‘report’. It is the allegations made in her lawsuit, and she will have to prove them in court based on a preponderance of the evidence. I wish her the best of luck, this cop sounds like one sick son of a bitch.

      • matism

        As are every one of his Brothers in Blue who did not stop him.

        • Proud Grandpa

          Unless of course the beat down was justified. How much crack cocaine was the civilian using before he made terroristic threats against the police? And if he resisted and all their movements were to get him cuffed and rendered harmless.
          .
          In that case their wrestling is just. You kinda wish you had sound and a police report before jumping to conclusions as you and I both did in this exchange. Get it? You don’t have enough information.
          .
          I’ve seen lots of videos like this that look bad for the cops until the full story comes out. Then we see the perp is just scamming us.

          • Flashing Scotsman

            Yeah, especially when the cop in question has a long record of acting this way. Then we know for SURE it’s the citizen that was in the wrong. Right?

    • jcfromnj

      Your in New Jersey, and getting video from ANYBODY with going to court will prove useless. The public records request (OPRA) is a toothless process that only re-enforce’s law enforcement efforts to obscure video evidence. I’ve been down that road. all you have to do is checks the case history of GRC on their website. Beside, did you a look at the those crazy close set eye’s on Wheaten ?

      • Proud Grandpa

        You believe you can judge mental illness by the distance between someone’s eyes? Ever hear of phrenology or National Socialist racial theories or Planned Parenthood? You don’t have a final solution to people who don’t look like you, do you, eh?

        • Cops+Accountability

          No, I can judge it by the badge’s reflection in their eyes.

  • Jim talbot

    that filthy PIG needs to be fired from the force. what a disgrace!!!

  • Daniel

    Holy Crap that was a beating!! The man is clearly see trying to protect himself not fighting officers!!! Damn.

  • Ron Grounds

    Jail time for cop

    • matism

      Ain’t gonna happen.

      • Flashing Scotsman

        Just wishful thinking?

  • Rusty Gunn

    All these events need to be recorded and sent to a cloud via wifi and posted to You Tube immediately. THEN that posting needs to be sent to not only his boss but to every person on the city council and the local media. Lots and lots of exposure will eventuall reign this crap in.

  • Ken

    I certainly hope they feel big and strong for being able to beat the hell out of that kid.. Unbelievable. Inexcusable.. Jail and a big time financial loss along with loosing his job and not being able to be a police officer ever again is the only remedy here. All of those officers were out of control..

    • matism

      Not one of them will suffer any consequences worse than paid time off.

  • hardh8

    I keep telling you people that the way to shut this crap down is to go serve on jury duty. Once on the jury, find every American NOT GUILTY of whatever crime they’ve been charged with. From Marijuana to Murder, NOT GUILTY. This is the only peaceful way left to force the police state back into the cage in the corner where our founding fathers originally placed it. NOT GUILTY, this will force the police state to it’s knees.

    • JdL

      find every American NOT GUILTY of whatever crime they’ve been charged with.

      I’m a big believer in jury nullification where appropriate, but I don’t see the point of hanging a jury in a murder case if the evidence is slam-dunk, just to pick one example. Why not save nullification for cases where the law is being used to promote injustice?

      • matism

        When between 20%-50% of evidence and testimony by “Law Enforcement” is “testilying” – aka perjury – how do you get to the evidence “slam-dunk” unless there is a Perry Mason moment? I don’t count on those being very frequent…

        • JdL

          When between 20%-50% of evidence and testimony by “Law Enforcement” is “testilying” – aka perjury – how do you get to the evidence “slam-dunk” unless there is a Perry Mason moment? I don’t count on those being very frequent…

          Like you, I’d give zero credibility to the testimony of a government thug cop. On the other hand, suppose twenty citizens witness Joe Blow pulling a gun and killing someone, and they all so testify in court. I’d tend to believe that Joe should be convicted of murder.

      • Proud Grandpa

        Jury nulification can return a verdict of not guilty, not hang a jury.
        .
        It means that the jury refuses to consider whether the evidence indicates a violation of law, because the jury believe the law is unconstitutional.

        • Flashing Scotsman

          I’m a big proponent of jury nullification also. But it should NOT be used to turn a guilty person free. It should be used ONLY as it is meant to be used. Nullifying an unlawful law. Anything else is using the Constitution against itself.

        • JdL

          Jury nulification can return a verdict of not guilty, not hang a jury.

          It can do either. If 11 jurors vote guilty and you vote not guilty, you’ve hung the jury. If you convince the rest to vote not guilty, that’s the verdict. Often, hanging the jury is the best that a jury nullification proponent can achieve.

          It means that the jury refuses to consider whether the evidence indicates a violation of law, because the jury believe the law is unconstitutional.

          Thanks, I’m well aware of the definition of jury nullification.

  • Rail Car Fan

    I’m confused.

    It was stated (in part) above: “When the elevator doors opened, Wheaten allegedly grabbed her brother by the head and tackled him to the GROUND!”

    In addition, the above also said: “Wheaten pulled her left arm and smashed her head against the GROUND”

    It’s obvious that I’m missing all the action that happened from the point of the elevator opening… to going out side where the action must have continued.

    One can NOT be forced to the GROUND if one is inside a building, unless that is, the building has a dirt FLOOR!

    .Rail Car Fan

    .

  • JdL

    I know it’s not nice to mock people based upon their looks, but this Sterling Wheaten certainly looks the part of a thug cop! Frightened, insecure, feeble-minded, self-absorbed, dangerous.

  • BusPass

    Three lawsuits and countless investigations, and not one of these incidents includes a component to the story where a “good cop” stepped up and did the right thing?

    Huh….

    Good cops are just as hard to capture on camera as Sasquatch and unicorns these days.

    • matism

      Well actually, Officer Jason Ellis is officially one of the few good cops in this country.

      • BusPass

        I don’t know Officer Ellis; what did he do?

        Yes, I’m familiar with the tragedy, but I know nothing of his behavior as an officer before his egregious murder. What can you tell us? Did he stop another officer from violating the rights of a citizen?

        If so, is it possible that we might need to consider this an inside job? Did he violate the Blue Code like Philadelphia police officer Thomas Bray who mysteriously died during a “diving accident” one day after testifying against another officer?

        • Josef Roesler

          Sounds like no cop could do right by you, no matter what, so it seems a pointless argument discussing it with you.

          • BusPass

            Right below this post there is a place for you to make your case. I never make this about me, so it’s ridiculous that you would as well.

            Go ahead. Tell us about the police who take the big risk and oppose the misbehavior in the establishment. Give it your best shot. Don’t be such a prick toward someone who merely made a point.

          • Josef Roesler

            “so it seems a pointless argument discussing it with you.” That’s the part where I just said I’m not gonna get troll baited by you. Please move along.

          • BusPass

            You responded to me, and now you have no substance. It’s time for you to go find a place where your 7th grade dramatics are appreciated.

          • Josef Roesler

            My substance was in my first reply to you. You are a troll, no need to continue.

          • BusPass

            There was no substance in your post, or in any of your post. It’s nothing but blah blah about character and namecalling.

            Are you the old man’s sock puppet?

          • Josef Roesler

            Exactly. Please move along, troll.

          • BusPass

            Try to make a point, hypocrite. Or was that you admitting to a split personality?

          • Josef Roesler

            No, that’s me knowing you can’t talk to a troll.

          • BusPass

            But yet you initiated a response to me…rather makes you the troll, especially since you have yet in all the posts you written even attempted to make a single valid point. Are you even capable of discussing the content of this incident, or is your only goal to attempt to insult as many people on PINAC as possible? Maybe you should go back to one of the cop forums where they appreciate your kind of insanity.

          • Josef Roesler

            My first response to you was before I knew you were a troll. I’ve made several valid points here, just because you choose to disagree with them doesn’t change that. I told you several times now, you don’t seem to be listening, that I wasn’t going to discuss the content of this incident with you. If you or anyone else feels insulted, shame on you, your wool is showing.

    • Proud Grandpa

      BustedPass, so you’re still trying to paint all police as the enemy. No good men in blue left anywhere?
      .
      I find that impossible to believe… espcially when PINAC article often report good officers’ repremanding or firing bad ones.
      .

      • Flashing Scotsman

        There ARE cases out there, you can even see evidence on YouTube, of cops doing the right thing in solo situations. But really, how many instances can you cite of a cop jumping into a situation to protect a citizen from another cop who is violating their rights?

        • Josef Roesler

          Constitutionality is not determined during a fight, but after, in court. It would take very childish, simplistic thinking to believe that a cop is gonna watch another cop get his ass beat because he believes the cop made a wrong decision.

          • BusPass

            If the police are unable to tell when someone’s rights are being violated, then it makes no sense to suggest that they know when someone is breaking a law.

            And you have the scenario entirely wrong; this isn’t about one cop watching another cop get his ass beat, this is about one cop letting another cop beat someone’s ass when that person has broken no laws.

          • Josef Roesler

            This is why sheep trolls can’t be talked to. Nobody said police are unable to tell when someone’s rights are being violated. You made that up.

            I didn’t have the scenario wrong, you just can’t read, it was an example I was using. Go back to sleep sheep.

          • BusPass

            It’s interesting that the crybaby bootlicker is calling other people sheep.

            And at some point in time we suspect there is a chance that you might make an argument that isn’t a chronic contradiction to any of your previous posts.

            Try again.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            He’s not a bootlicker, he’s an officer.

            He just can’t distinguish between reasonable and unreasonable force.

          • Josef Roesler

            Have a good day.

          • Flashing Scotsman

            “a cop jumping into a situation to protect a citizen from another cop who is violating their rights?”

            Yeah, according to how I read what I said, there was nothing there about “a cop is gonna watch another cop get his ass beat because he believes the cop made a wrong decision.”

            Maybe Josef needs to learn to read. Or stop licking boots. Or both. I certainly hope I never run across him as an officer.

          • Josef Roesler

            Well, you’re either saying the second cop is gonna jump in there and start fighting the first cop or he’s gonna let the suspect fight the cop. Don’t know how I read that wrong.

          • Flashing Scotsman

            Maybe,……get the situation under control? Are you being dense on purpose?

          • Josef Roesler

            No, I don’t live in Fairyland. Explain to me how you stop a 260 pound heavily armed cop from fighting another man? Maybe you’d just say, “I say, old fellow, would you mind stopping that troublesome behaviour?” Yeah, that’s probably all you need to do. In Fairyland. But in the real world, if you are a cop, you are either with your partner, or you’re gonna fight him. And it ain’t just gonna end with fists. No wonder you sheep think it’s as easy as just asking the criminals to lock themselves up, you have no idea what the real world is like outside your cloud padded fantasy world.

          • Flashing Scotsman

            Yes, it seems you’re being dense on purpose. That, and you’re a bootlicker.

          • Josef Roesler

            You didn’t answer the question, so you just like to throw out make believe suggestions, but have no idea how you would really do it.

          • BusPass

            It became apparent.

      • BusPass

        Can you address my comment on it’s merit, or were you just trying to pointlessly speculate about my character?

        Did you not realize that you made errors in spelling and punctuation?

        Which PINAC article shows where a “good cop” stepped up and stopped a “bad cop” who was violating the rights of a citizen? If you have trouble with that example, please feel free to step far outside PINAC to show us where a “good cop” protected the rights of a citizen from a “bad cop.”

        Meanwhile I’ll remind you that all of the cops in this incident teamed together to attack this man. Over 21 officers were involved in the violation of rights and evidence destruction in the Omaha, Nebraska case involving the Johnson brothers, and four officers in Hollywood Florida were only stopped from their carefully-constructed framing of a female driver because they were caught on camera.

        Go ahead. Give it your best shot.

        • Josef Roesler

          All of the cops in this incident got involved because he refused to comply. Dog food.

          • BusPass

            Looks like there never should’ve been an encounter in the first place, and if you don’t think this video shows overreach and violation of rights, then it would appear that your position on your homemade spectrum is that the police can do no wrong and they never screw up.

          • Josef Roesler

            You like to tell everyone what they think. Can’t argue with that. Please move along.

          • BusPass

            Show me one example of where I ever did that. Go ahead. Stop being such a coward.

          • Josef Roesler

            “then it would appear that your position on your homemade spectrum is that the police can do no wrong and they never screw up.” That’s one, plenty where that came from. Move along, there’s nothing to see here.

          • BusPass

            So did that help you understand your hypocrisy? It’s interesting to read your posts where you whine about people that are namecallers, but now you encounter someone who is not so you become the namecaller. You whine about condescending speech, and then tell people to move along in a discussion where they weren’t even responding to you.

            Get a grip, unless you want to continue to get owned like you were the last time you made the mistake of trying to keep up with me in a discussion.

          • Josef Roesler

            You’re not owning someone when you make a bunch of shit up. When I quote you, that’s not MY language, it’s yours. I called you a sheep. You think that’s namecalling? That’s the cry of a whiney ass sheep not liking his label.

          • BusPass

            Oddly, what you quoted was me restating what you said…so who was it that was telling other people what they think?

            Calling someone a sheep is not calling them a name? Alrighty then. Must’ve been a term of endearment. The hypocrisy is thick with that one.

          • Josef Roesler

            If you call restating something completely different than it was said a quote, then sure, you quoted me. Have a nice day.

          • BusPass

            Since that isn’t what happened, you find yourself further into the weeds.

          • Josef Roesler

            Right.

          • BusPass

            That was YOUR post and language, BTW. You were the one who speculated about me and then suggested that I was one telling everyone what they think. How stupid can you be on a public forum?

          • BusPass

            It’s about time you realized you were in over your head. Now go guard the bathroom door in terminal three or something.

            Don’t be angry at us over the poor decisions you made in choosing a “career.”

          • Josef Roesler

            Typical.

            And now you’re telling me what I think about my career. You call me a coward for not pointing it out, you keep hollering hypocrite, but I have now cited you 4 times telling me what others and myself think, yet you keep doing it.

          • BusPass

            Didn’t happen. What is “hollering?”

            What you are obsessing about is something you do with every post, so either decide if you like it or not.

            At least try to get it right.

          • Josef Roesler

            Are you the guy who was too stupid to use Google last time? It’s clearly a legitimate word, but now you are ridiculing my speech because you have nothing else to say. The rest of your post makes no sense.

          • BusPass

            Why am I ridiculing your speech? Did you just speculate about my thinking?

            Can you not abide by one standard that you demand of others? Or is it obvious to you that it’s so convoluted that you couldn’t possible manage it?

          • Josef Roesler

            I didn’t ask you why, I know you do it because you are pathetic. No, I did not speculate on your thinking, I speculated on how you keep telling me what myself and others think, but you keep turning that around.

          • BusPass

            At least you acknowledge that your nonsense about me supposedly assigning thoughts to others was nothing more than speculation. Now that we’ve gotten that idiocy cleared up, maybe you’ll stop projecting your own lack of social skills onto others.

          • Josef Roesler

            I didn’t acknowledge anything, I was using your word to respond to you. Who cares if I was speculating on something that was factual? You really are grasping.

          • BusPass

            Oh, so you weren’t speculating…I really need to remember that you never really mean what you say, and that what applies to others does not apply to you.

            Won’t make that mistake again.

          • Josef Roesler

            Where did I say that I wasn’t speculating? You made that up.

      • Difdi

        If the best argument you can make against what he said is to insult his name and his character, then you should probably consider the possibility that you are the one who is wrong.

    • Josef Roesler

      Or perhaps all of the lawsuits were losers suing because they have nothing else to do while they’re in jail? Most likely. This asshole here deserved to be dog lunch, he never stopped resisting. If he’d been behaving this way on my street, he’d have gotten the same.

      • John West

        So him speaking his mind was cause for such a beating, they were kicking and hitting him with batons my hand would have been trying to protect my face and body and not once did I see him resist just trying to cover up from the brutality he was inflicted with. I would seek revenge for that type of punk ass bullying. You sir are a fucking retard and I hope you have a nice time with your pig buddies in hell!

        • Josef Roesler

          That’s because sheep like you can’t do anything but be sheep. There were so many reasons this guy could have been arrested. That is not how you speak your mind. They were striking him because he would not comply. If he had stopped resisting at any time during the video, he would have been handcuffed and sat up. When a cop is trying to put handcuffs on you and you keep putting your hands up to your face, that is resisting. Sorry sheep, that’s the law. Change it if you don’t like it.

          • BusPass

            It’s interesting that America is the only place where the police seem to have the “need” to use extreme force to arrest all of these “non-compliant” perpetrators.

            When a cop is punching you in the face, your instinct will be to cover your face, and that is not resisting.

          • Josef Roesler

            You are misinformed, it happens all over the world. Baaaa.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            You know, I’ve been listening to your defense of the ACPD officer and trying to see where you are coming from. Unfortunately, you’re not a Deputy Stan Lenic, and unfortunately, you can’t be trusted to protect and serve since you can’t distinguish what is and what is not reasonable force.

            Yeah, the POS probably needed to go to jail. No, he did not need to have his ass beat or the dog put on him. It’s called excessive force. That’s clear from the video.

          • Josef Roesler

            It’s clear to sheep. They took him down like they were trained. They applied a few baton and knee strikes to his non-vital body areas and when he still would not comply, they let the dog eat him until he did. Sheep can’t do the work that needs to be done, so just step back with the ladies and leave the men to their work.

          • BusPass

            Their training is damaged. Their hatred for individual rights is disgusting. Their inability to resolve simple issues with anything but violence reveals their complete inability to exercise even a shred of intellect.

            There is no longer any pride in being a cop in America.

            I do the job of protecting myself quite well without the need for a bunch of armored up thugs coming around to mess the place up after the heavy lifting is done.

          • Josef Roesler

            Ah, here you are again telling us what other people think. Good job.

          • BusPass

            What you believe is happening is not the case.

            This may explain the distorted and exaggerated response by police officers to otherwise benign events.

          • Josef Roesler

            I see, so if you simply keep saying you are not doing what you are doing, then that makes it so? Got it.

          • BusPass

            Apparently you don’t see it. The fact is that just because you claim someone did something, it doesn’t mean they did it.

          • Josef Roesler

            Have a nice day.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Nah, just typical Louisiana BS.

            Probably comes from the low pay. Your Lt.’s pay range is from $35-48K? Really? In my area, a regular officer starts at $48K.

            It would probably help if you dealt more with real police issues instead of standing around in terminals watching TSA work.

          • Josef Roesler

            When did Atlantic City become a part of Louisiana?

            So you’re not familiar with the term “cost of living” I guess. Since you can buy a nice house here for $100,000 we get paid less than cops in surrounding states. Does your regular officer get a bonus $300,000 handed to him as he walks out at his 90% retirement? Probably not.

            It would probably help if you had a clue what you’re talking about.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            I’m from Texas nimrod. I was speaking of the fact that your attitude is more Louisiana BS, which is one of the reasons that so many Louisiana officers are facing use of force issues with the feds.

            I’m familiar with the cost of living in Louisiana, and I’m not impressed with the bonus. A Dallas officer, retiring at age 60, with DROP, can look at 96% retirement (about $71K/year) and a DROP payment of about $400K. Then you can move to a lower income area.

            You also get what you pay for. If your citizens are willing to accept the $25-30K officer with crappy decision-making skills, that’s their choice. The better ones are going to go where they can earn a good living.

            It would probably help if you had a clue what you’re talking about.

          • Josef Roesler

            That’s funny, because I am FROM Longview. Texas. Nimrod. But I’m sure no police officers in Texas are in trouble for UOF violations. They’re all angels.

            We don’t have any $25-30K officers here. And at the numbers you give for Dallas cops, they are living in poverty in overpriced Dallas. And it’d be my guess that Dallas is an exception in Texas policing. Chief of Police in Jasper, TX only makes $61,000, so your numbers don’t mean much.

            I retire at 55 with 30 years and that’s because I started late, wasted 4 years getting a degree. In 6 years, I’ll be making more than that Chief in addition to my DROP while I sail the south Pacific.

            So I’m not really concerned with who’s being sued by feds.

          • BusPass

            American cops enjoy the distinction of killing and wounding more people during the execution of “arrests” than anyone else.

            If you think what is going on here is status quo across the civilized world, then your are drunk, high, or a cop.

          • Josef Roesler

            I may be all three, but at least I’m not making up statistics.

          • John West

            Sheep? Your the sheep. its people like you who justify this type of corruption and let the powers that be determine what is right and wrong in this country with no moral obligation or understanding of the populous that have had enough of this police state and it’s brutal tactics. No sir I am awake and maybe one day something like this will happen to you or a loved one. Then and only then will you see.

          • Josef Roesler

            My loved ones are not criminals, so they don’t act like this guy. No need to worry. I’m plenty against corruption, just that there’s none in this video. This is just a video of a guy who wanted to fuck with the police, they let him have his fun for a while, then when it went on for far too long, they put a stop to it.

          • John West

            And that was cause for such a beating? Wow your kids must be terrified of you!

          • Josef Roesler

            I’ve already explained so sheep can understand, they didn’t strike him for that. You can’t seem to follow.

          • BusPass

            The sheep will agree with you.

            Liberty loving people will demand a higher standard, one which is apparently too much to ask.

          • John West

            A sheep is someone who goes along with this type of brutality against his neighbor just as long as its not happening to him. YOU ARE THE SHEEP! Wake the fuck up!

          • Josef Roesler

            No, the sheep is someone who sits around whining and crying because they don’t like how the sheepdog dispatched the wolf.

          • BusPass

            Looks like you are violating your own damaged standard of determining and assigning what other people are thinking.

          • John West

            Well said

          • Josef Roesler

            I’m sorry, who’s mind did I just say I read? You sheep SAID you didn’t like what happened, so how am I putting words in your mouth? See, like I said from the beginning, you can’t argue with a troll. You’ll say any fool thing that pops into your head.

          • John West

            You keep saying we’re trolls but you seem to keep going and going and going like the energizer idiot,lol

          • Josef Roesler

            Just keeping up with you, am I not? That makes you one as well, by your definition.

          • John West

            You know what, you are right. Life is too short too waste on your old crusty boot licking ass. Good day FUCKTARD!

          • Josef Roesler

            Such hostility. You’d make a good dirty cop. Good day.

          • John West

            When do your classes start

          • Josef Roesler

            As soon as yours do?

          • John West

            Does it feel good to have the last word? Think again DICK

          • Josef Roesler

            Have a nice day.

          • John West

            Haha I have all day! Good day.

          • Josef Roesler

            That’s funny because just a few minutes ago you said life was too short to waste on me…Now you have all day. I’m glad your schedule cleared up.

          • John West

            Just wondering how long you can talk while your supposed to be at work

          • Josef Roesler

            Where’d you get that nutty idea?

            But to answer your question, I could probably do it for about 8-10 hours.

          • John West

            So tell me more about the underage prostitute you killed, I’m intrigued.

          • Josef Roesler

            Sorry, that offer was just for BusPass. Since he’s got my Lt’s and Chief’s and their secretary’s ear and all. You know, he’s special like that.

          • John West

            Well my door is open if you ever feel the need, or need a shoulder to cry on. After all that’s what us sheep are here for.

          • Josef Roesler

            That’s awesome because just a little while ago I was just an old crusty boot licking ass FUCKTARD, but now that you want to hear me talk about killing underage prostitutes, you’ve got all the time in the world and an open door for me. Funny how stories of pedophilia bring ‘em out, ain’t it?

          • John West

            You brought it up. And don’t include me in that scenario, you were the one who claimed to kill an underage prostitute. I was just curious what goes on in a child killing pedophiles mind, like yours.

          • Josef Roesler

            Yeah, I brought it up with BusPass, but you’re the one who was calling me names and running away from me till I started talking about little girls. Now you wanna be my buddy because you think I’m interesting. This is nice. “John West and Josef Roesler” on the internet talking about pedophilia and child prostitution. I put both of our names together like that so it will come up better in a search engine. In case anyone wants to search for any child porn related material. So they’ll be able to pull up some names of people having child porn conversations on the internet. Particularly on a photography website.

          • John West

            I wasn’t running away from you I just can’t stand people who think all law enforcement are innocent and that extreme violence is ok to take out on unarmed civilians. It was you having to have the last word that made me want to pursue this stupid little conversation. Now you see what a troll is, I being the example

          • John West

            And by the way people who hurt little children should be killed

          • Josef Roesler

            Well, if you people would quit insisting that we think all law enforcement are innocent and that extreme violence is ok, you wouldn’t be having this argument. I don’t agree with that at all and I have seen instances of it on this website that were wrong. This, however, does not meet the criteria. You “sheep” who presume to know what cops are thinking and how to do the cops’ jobs are just wrong sometimes. Because they can’t stand to see a good beating, they can’t accept that sometimes criminals get their asses handed to them when they thought they were safe fucking with the police.

            You may think this was a savage beating, but it would, in fact, make a very good use of force and baton instruction guide. They did it like it is supposed to be done. Nobody got kicked in the head, nobody got any joints broken, nobody got any vital organs damaged. Sheep can’t understand or accept that, which is why they are sheep.

          • John West

            Sheep are asleep and many are waking up. People fucking with the police. please tell me that stereotyping black kids and stop and search tactics are not the same thing. That is fucking with the people. What if the police are violating someones rights and a group a people stood up and beat the fuck out of those cops and even killed one or two, oh no that would be horrible! But the same shit happens all across America every single day to us law biding citizens. But it’s the police so it’s ok?

          • Josef Roesler

            You are absolutely correct. And none of that applies to this video.

          • John West

            I was not there correct, but it seems to me like if you stop hitting someone long enough for them to respond to their commands that this could have been avoided. Can you at least agree to that?

          • Josef Roesler

            I suppose I could agree with that, but that’s not how it works. It might look different to you if you were actually there trying to handcuff this guy. Nobody is hitting him in the face, so his hands are not covering his face. A Taser would have worked better, but then you guys would be screaming about how horrible that looks.

          • John West

            The guy did look a little distraught, but out of nowhere an officer blasts him in the face and takes him down…Wish there could’ve been audio of the footage taken. And as he’s being handcuffed the dog attacks him. I know police have a hard job and the bad ones make it tougher on the good ones but you have to see it from the other side as well. If that were a bad cop getting his just desert and a civilian dog the people would be sitting in a jail cell if not killed by other officers and the dog would have been destroyed…just saying, Ugh

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Sorry guys, sometimes a wolf ends up in the sheepdog group.

            Thankfully this one is at an airport, where he can’t do a lot of harm.

          • Josef Roesler

            Yeah, nothing ever happens at airports.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            Pretty much. In many places where the officers are part of the city department, the airport is used as a place to put the rubber gun squad or those that are already retired, because nothing really ever happens there. If it does, the real police will show up to take care of it.

          • Josef Roesler

            Yeah, maybe you’re right. I still get paid, on average, more than most departments in the area. And unlike when I worked in the prison, I don’t get shit slung at me or have to fight inmates any more, and unlike the streets, I no longer have to deal with whiney pussys with cameras who think they know my job better than me. Your name says you are an ex cop. Were you as shitty a cop as the ones you hate on daily? It seems you would have had to be since all cops are wrong. I rally don’t see your point in running my job down, other than maybe you’re jealous, because even if it is a retirement job, I’ve worked for the “real police” as well.

            That seems to be your only purpose on here now. Two posts above I made a valid point about not all cops think cops are all innocent and immediately after, you come back with a dig at my job. You don’t actually have anything to say, you just want to try to discredit my opinion because of the lay out job I chose to use to make my retirement.

            Hell, if I use your reasoning and assume you were a cop before but you will become a lawyer, that means that you are a spineless pussy who files frivolous lawsuits all the time and has absolutely no idea how to be a cop. You’re just a law student, you can’t possibly know anything about policing. Lucky for us, you don’t carry a gun or you’d be on the streets pistol whipping children because you can’t handle the job. Yeah, exactly the same.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            LOL, yeah, I’m an ex-cop, I did my 20 years and moved on.

            When you started posting on here, you were immediately dismissive of anyone who did not bow down to your “superior” knowledge of police tactics and started with the sheep BS. If you are going to belittle others, like you have done above, and then expect kid gloves on your job and background, you are sadly mistaken.

            I’m aware of what is and is not acceptable tactics and use of force, and what I saw on the video was excessive. I also defend officers when they are right, which is more often than most on this blog believe. All you need to do is to look at my past posts here.

          • Josef Roesler

            I haven’t made any claims of superior knowledge.

            On a website where most people are saying fuck the police, I really don’t think I’m belittling anyone. my sheep references were a reply in kind.

            The problem with your comments about my background is that you have no clue what you’re talking about. I expect if you’re going to assassinate someone’s character, you have your facts straight. I guess you will find that out the hard way in court.

          • BusPass

            At least you are admitting that you say any fool thing that pops into your head.

            BTW, I just shared this link with Anthony Williams and Mike Wallis. I also shared it with Marie, mostly because I suspect she’ll share your insanity with your coworkers.