January 23rd, 2014

Cell Phone Video Contradicts Sheriff’s Version of Deputy-Involved Killing 184

By Carlos Miller

CBS 5 – KPHO

An Arizona deputy shot and killed a man claiming he was reaching for a gun, but a cell phone video shows the man had raised his hands in the air.

However, Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu insists the man should have been killed much earlier because he wasn’t complying with their orders.

But obviously Babeu is trying to spin the story after the cell phone video contradicted their earlier rendition of the facts.

According to CBS5:

A witness shot the video on a cell phone. It shows the final moments of the standoff, when deputies were ordering Manuel Longoria to surrender. The deputies had their weapons drawn and fired five bean bag rounds at the suspect, in addition to Taser rounds.

Longoria appeared to be moving his arms around, and did not appear to be cooperating with the deputies. Seconds later, the video shows Longoria turn his back on the deputies and raise both hands into the air, high over his head. One second later, a lone deputy fired two shots, killing Longoria.

A statement issued on the day of the shooting read:

“Officers and deputies attempted to use less lethal means to take him into custody including firing several bean bag rounds and Taser deployments. The suspect refused to obey the commands and suddenly reached back into the vehicle. A deputy felt the suspect was reaching for the gun he reportedly had, so he then fired two rounds.”

The statement does not mention the fact that Longoria had his hands above his head when he was shot. Witnesses told CBS 5 Investigates they heard Longoria say he had a gun and would not be taken into custody alive. But after the shooting, investigators found no weapon.

“I believe even looking at it in those circumstances, if I was a patrol officer and I was forced in that same situation, I would likely have shot him before that deputy shot him,” said Sheriff Paul Babeu, who spoke to CBS 5 Investigates via satellite from Washington, DC, where he was attending a conference.

But the video was so revealing that even a former cop said the deputy was out of line.

But a former DPS and Scottsdale Police Officer Jess Torrez disagreed after viewing the video.

“You have multiple police officers on the scene and only one person makes the shot. That tells me that other officers at the scene did not feel there was justification to use deadly physical force,” said Torrez.

Torrez said despite Longoria’s behavior during the chase and initial part of the standoff, the only actions that were central to a decision to shoot, occurred right before the deputy opened fire.

“Officers are taught to look at the hands first and foremost. So if his hands are up in the air, he doesn’t have anything in them. How do they justify using deadly force?” asked Torrez.

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Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu


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  • BeJay

    He feared for his life because the suspect was a mutant and could feel a powerful pull on his gun from what felt like a magnetic field.

  • Mahonri Young

    Yep, you should kill anyone who doesn’t comply with orders – even when the video shows NO danger. What an ASS!

    • terry

      your the ass i havent followed orders before on a traffic stop you think they should of shot me ?

      • ActualDeadhead

        Your sarcasm detector is on the blink.

        • bacchys

          It ain’t just on the blink. It’s kaput.

      • Larry Harrell

        it was a sarcastic comment …..you dummy

      • paschn

        Very, very seldom do the Sycophants-in-Blue shoot badge-lickers. Normally they hand them tissue as they rise from their knees.

        • MrDamage

          mmmm tissues from the pocket of our lords and masters. I shall stuff my kneepads with this glorious substance

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        In your case…yes.

    • Rail Car Fan

      The article said in part…

      “However, Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu insists the man should have been killed much earlier because he wasn’t complying with their orders.”

      So does this mean if you’re a Deaf/HoHi (HoHi= Hard of Hearing/Hearing Impaired) person, you should be shot by the cops because you’re not complying with their demands (due to the hearing disability you have)?

      What about (under those same non-hearing circumstances), if your hands and arms are in motion while facing a cop… which one has to do when they Deaf sign? Does this also give the cops the right to shoot (and kill) you because of it?

      Just something to think about…

      Rail Car Fan

  • Mahonri Young

    Yep, you should kill anyone who doesn’t comply with orders – even when the video shows NO danger. What an ASS!

  • Seamus Ruah

    “We are the Police, we can kill you any time we want.”
    Perhaps it is time to start warning visitors to stay away from the US.

    • Garnette

      A while back I did read that there were travel advisories on the good ol’ USA

      • Paul Kisling

        Especially from European nations. Germans have the nasty habit of getting killed in Florida.

      • G

        Funny, during the 1980s or 70s, Mexican highway robbers were attacking American tourists and the State Department put out a travel advisory and it got the Mexican government mad. Maybe the Mexican government should put out its own travel advisorty for its citizens traveling in the USA.

    • Ian Battles

      the Kelly Thomas verdict has set a terrifying precedent.

      Cops are now murdering citizens ON CAMERA, WITHOUT FEAR OF CONSEQUENCES.

      • george eady

        yes he must have needed time off with pay to paint his house .

  • http://facebook.com/dballing/ Derek Balling

    “I do not want to see a deputy killed because they delayed or hesitated for a split-second” says Sheriff Babeu.

    I counter that with “I would rather a deputy delay a split-second and do their job rather than see a civilian killed in error.”

    The civilian isn’t paid to put their life at risk. The deputy IS, and accepts that risk by taking that job.

    The logic Babeu subscribes to allows for over-simplistic “kill the civilians, then there’ll only deputies left” logic, ensuring that the deputies live and reveals the belief that law enforcement subscribes to — that THEIR lives are more valuable than ours.

    • paschn

      Well said. However, consider this, the delusional denizens in this dying republic have put more value on the lives of Sycophants-in-Blue for decades. Many states have automatic death sentences for shooting them. That being said, a COGNIZANT citizen capable of objective/critical thought, would demand an end to ALL legislation/laws which favor one group over another. We have laws to protect people en toto, period. Look what has become of Canada, Australia and Western Europe. It begins with “hate laws” to give protection to this group or that, next thing you know, you go to prison and are fined into poverty by the STATE for simply stating that you don’t believe the holocaust happened as put forth by the media. NO one group should garner more protection or rights from a truly democratic government simply because of social strata, political clout or the ability to “purchase” a stable of whores commonly referred to as “legislators”.

      • Difdi

        Actually, that sort of thing is EXACTLY why our founders made us a constitutional republic instead of a true democracy. Because every true democracy in history has, sooner or later, committed suicide by voting people special rights and protection.

        Our constitution was designed to prevent it from happening, which just goes to show that sooner or later a lawyer can argue anyone into anything.

        • paschn

          I’ve been racking my brain for the last couple of years trying to remember the name of this “statesman” being interviewed on the eve of his retirement. The sweet, innocent young reporter doing the interview asked him how they passed bills into law. He smiled at her,( remember, he’s already made his and is getting set to sip margaritas on some beach ’til he gasps his last), and said they don’t make the laws, the CORPORATIONS make the laws, have their toadies deliver it to them, they, (the “legislators), ask, is this what you want? the toadies assure them that, yes, they want it exactly as written and they, (legislators), vote it into law. The reporter stood there in shock with her jaw drooping open, our “statesman” chuckled and ended the interview. This is NOT made up. These types of blow-flies are why we’re in this situation, well, that and an arrogantly ignorant culture too busy with the “Stupor” bowl and reality T.V. to watch their government like hawks. I could kick myself for not keeping that clip but there you have it, right from the “whore”-se’s pie-hole. And that is nothing but the tiny tip of the iceberg. If you want to really let your blood boil, check on how we got knifed in the back w/ corporate “citizenship”, the private Central bank, (ours is named the Federal Reserve), who/what the IRS is and whom they work for. “Democracy” or “Republic”, makes no difference when you have a culture foolish enough to trust swine with our lives in their hands to do the “right” thing.

    • Ian Battles

      At what point does “officer safety” override my inalienable, constitutional right to be free from excessive force, aka, being murdered in cold blood on the street?

      • n4zhg

        The moment an officer steps into the street, according to them.

        • Difdi

          The thing is, from a legal standpoint, every citizen has the same right to self-defense as a police officer with only one exception — a police officer can be the aggressor in an altercation, escalate the force level then kill someone and still claim self-defense.

          But any type or degree of force a police officer can legally use is also legal for a citizen to use so long as they are not the aggressor and their lives are threatened or great bodily harm is imminent.

          The true problem lies with the courts who apply different standards to the same right, depending on who exercises it. Whether it be police and private citizens or white people and people who aren’t, it’s discrimination pure and simple. That discrimination is one thing that is driving the movement against Stand Your Ground laws — somehow, courts are more likely to believe that that SYG applies when it’s white people doing it.

          • tionico

            Yet the record clearly shows that non-white use, and benefit, from Stand Your Ground laws about three times as often as do whites. SO– what drives THAT disparity?

          • Difdi

            It’s the same sort of discrimination. One group is held strictly to the letter of the law while the other is judged by the spirit of the law.

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        As soon as he is sworn in and immediately violates his oath.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002329011677 Jaysin R Clifton

        I think it was Rodney King that started this change in policy to kill people, so they wont be around, just in case they try to sue later. it was that “slippery slope” some people talk about. im sure the LAPD wished they killed King for not following orders.

    • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

      The motto on his patrol car is; KILL THEM ALL, LET GOD SORT THEM OUT.
      TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE STATE.

  • John

    murder

    • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

      I wonder if someone goes and shoots that cop and gets caught if he can claim he was in fear of his life so he attacked him first? I mean after all, that seems to be the way the US does everything these days.

  • paschn

    After all, what can you expect of a cop trained by a terrorist nation who looks like an erect prick w/ ears?

  • Rusty Gunn

    The cop will skate.

  • Difster

    Straight up murder.

  • jcfromnj

    Sheriff, your a bald face liar, that’s how CITIZEN’s get killed by psycho cop’s who have been been programed Manchurian Candidate style to kill with no hesitation or remorse…..

    • jeffy1951

      Sheriff Babeau IS trying to convey a feeling of unity among his fellow officers by trying to justify a cop shooting an unarmed man in the back! What a POS !

      • matism

        I pray that he and his Brothers in Blue soon have the Officer Jason Ellis experience.

  • Haeshu

    This criminal cop should be charged with MURDER!

    • dravo1

      If the local DA hasn’t got the spine to at least convene a grand jury I’m sure the feds will step in and handle things for him.

      • n4zhg

        I’m sure I’ll find gold in the toilet the next time I take a dump.

      • Larry Harrell

        don’t be so sure!!!!

  • Farid Rushdi

    This sheriff is very pro gun and very anti-illegal immigrant and has appeared very often on the cable channels in support of citizen safety against the federal government and the illegals.

    I liked the guy. But now, he is just another sheriff making it clear that he feels officers and deputies have cart blanche to shoot us dead. Years ago, police seemed to wait for the last possible moment to use deadly force. A bad guy would grab for a guy and that wouldn’t start the shooting; he would have to start turning around and aiming. Today, the threat of a having a gun is all they need to kill.

    It would take one murder charge against an officer to stop the wild-west attitude of these guys.

    I grew up loving police, always supporting and always defending them. But when they started to blame us for their mistakes, that relationship ended. and they wonder why so many of us come to these sights.

    • paschn

      I was taught to respect authority. Respect but not blindly trust it. Cops weren’t so much steroid addled prix home from foreign slaughter looking for a way to continue their “patriot games”. I still have a healthy respect for a thug armed with a weapon and the rotten to the core government of/by and for corporations but it isn’t a healthy respect any longer. It’s a respect formed from knowing the filth, at a whim, will murder you at worst, beat you to a pulp at best. Why? Because he can and he knows those he drops to his knees before to service will back him because he/she/it is ALL that stands between those doing the screwing and those TAKING it. Now I wouldn’t move an iota out of my way to save a cop’s life and if questioned about what I saw? To quote Schultzie from Hogan’s Heroes, I know NUTTINGK!. It’s just one less lackey running interference for his owners

    • Steve Riddle

      Thank you Farid….your post is exactly what I would have stated. I feel the same way. Thank you for posting what so many of us feel. :)

    • Film The Police Always

      Actually, it will take murdered cops before anything changes.

      • matism

        Nothing will change for the better until there are enough dead pig corpses stacked in the streets.

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  • AAS

    Why was he the only officer who shot him?

  • TheFlashingScotsman

    In a situation where an officer feels his life could be in danger, (a man telling them that he has a gun and won’t be taken alive), he’s got his gun out, aimed at the suspect, he is looking very closely for that movement that convinces him that there’s no other way, he MUST pull the trigger. A man turning his back to you and putting his hands in the air is NOT such a movement.

    • bacchys

      Yeah. Even if he *could* have legally shot him a few seconds earlier doesn’t make this a lawful shoot.

      • Larry Harrell

        exactly

  • Alma Lovell

    “comply or die”, the new police protocol.

    • Conrarian

      Or in this case, ‘ Comply AND die,’

  • Bob_Striffler

    Putting your hands in the air can easily be mistaken, in an intense moment, during a fluid law enforcement investigation, for reaching for a gun. It doesn’t matter what the video shows! Did you see all the aggressive movements he was making with all those guns on him! They were obvious! The police on the scene sure did! They’re trained for this and have years of experience dealing with bloodthirsty thugs. That skinhead cop interviewed on the news had it right, he would have shot him long before that miscreant putting his hands in the air! What’s the big deal? I don’t care if a gun was found or not. That’s irrelevant! He had been saying for weeks that he was going to kill the cops! Didn’t you know that?

    • homopunk84 .

      So they decide to kill him when he gives up and puts his hands in the air? Great logic there man. You should defend him in court! Especially considering hearsay and conjecture and what he’d been saying for weeks isn’t as important as REAL evidence.

      • Bob_Striffler

        There will be no court! Why would there be a trial?

        • Anon

          The investigation is still pending by the DA’s office. It is only the police department that has cleared him of wrong doing. There is also the likelihood of a civil lawsuit.

          • Bob_Striffler

            Now look at Anon- e-mouse’s response! Duh! He’s so stupid he fell for it! I even put in my own down votes dumbass!

          • Anon

            Is English your first language?

          • Conrarian

            How many of the officers at the scene will/would testify against the action of this officer?

            Bets?

      • Bob_Striffler

        Duh!

      • paschn

        ” You should defend him in court!”

        Add him to those who acquitted Kelly Thomas’ killers and you have the answer. Have you ever watched the “orchestrated” homey town hall meetings blow-flies like McCain/Romney et al put on for their FRIENDLY media? Ever watched as a citizen asks a legitimate question of those pus-bags and watched the reaction from not only the whore at the podium but the fellow citizens making up the audience, to the person asking the question? The fellow citizens turn on the person asking the legitimate answer like rabid dogs whose “home team” have lost the game! Most are questions relevant to the “interview”, questions like why do they vote themselves healthcare and not fellow citizens, or why they have their tens of millions of dollars in un-taxed off shore accounts… This country has slowly morphed into “Bizarro World”.

    • Guest

      All of those things you say may help to explain and mitigate a mistake the cop made in shooting. But it does nothing to explain all the lying, all the conspiring, all the falsifying, all the perjury, all the crimes, and all the the traitorous actions after.

      • Bob_Striffler

        Did you see the quotations, they were all excuses I’ve seen for killing people! Did you note that I thumbs down my own statements? Did you notice I gave thumbs up to those who dissed my asshole statements? These statements of other assholes shape your society! Dipshit! They make you banter back and forth on reality!

    • Guest

      I didn’t recognize your sarcasm in my first reply. After rereading it and noting your quotation marks I see you were being sardonic.

    • Pamela Lewis

      I agree and seems logical in what the suspect stated, either you or me! Well the police did what they HAD to do in this case.

      • Joseph Murray

        Wow…

      • Bob_Striffler

        There was no statement he ever wanted to kill the cops. I just said that to watch you feed off that lie! aarrgghh!

      • Larry Harrell

        you are a ignorant sheeple!! did you not watch the video? the guy had his hands high in the air!!! I hope its you they kill next!!!!

    • dravo1

      In my book if a cop says he feared for his life he better have soiled his pants before squeezing that trigger.

    • Bob_Striffler

      Duh!

    • jeffy1951

      Put down the pipe Bob – you’ve had enough.

      • Bob_Striffler

        Actually it was beer last night. All these sick cop videos watching citizens falsely arrested beaten and shot, makes me crazy mad! That was kind of dumb responding to myself? Duh back at me!

    • http://facebook.com/dballing/ Derek Balling

      If “training for this” includes shooting an unarmed guy, hands in the air, in the back, then the training is useless and needs to be completely scrapped and send everyone back to academy for re-education, you can have your guns when you prove your actual competence.

      • Difdi

        I’ve often wondered, how can police agencies make claims that various abuses of authority and violations of rights are fully in accordance with department policy…

        …without becoming subject to anti-mafia laws like the RICO Act?

        • matism

          Because they are Only Ones, and the laws do not apply to them.
          Any more than the laws apply to their Masters.

        • Bob_Striffler

          Rico Laws should apply! It’s out of control!

      • Bob_Striffler

        That was just a collection of asshole excuses I’ve heard or read over and over! That is not the way I feel! Many here know how I feel about this crap already!

    • Rail Car Fan

      Well we know which side of the “Thin Blue Line” you stand on… don’t we Bob..!!..?

      Rail Car Fan

      • Bob_Striffler

        RCF look at the quotation marks in my message! Everyone knows where I truly stand where it comes to Evil Freaking Cops! What I did in that message is what I see done so often, make excuses and explain away the reality of the video from an asshole’s point of view! The point is, there should be no acceptable point of view or excuses when the real facts are documented on video! There is no forum like it, not in sports, not in citizen crime, only where public servants are concerned and it’s sick! Sorry you misinterpreted? Surely you’ve seen my other posts about the police here?

  • homopunk84 .

    He knows what he did. He will have to LIVE his entire life with that guilt. And personally I hope he has nightmares, terrorizing flash backs to the point he uses all his money on therapy and eventually it gets too much and he ends his life with a gun in his mouth alone in his basement as a coward. The last thought in his head being that the entire world saw his evil and cowardly actions and not only judged him, but awaits further judgment after he pulls the trigger… for eternity.

    • Bob_Striffler

      He’s not going to feel guilty, why would he? Further if he does feel guilty, he’s going to get several weeks off paid, that should ease the guilt a little!

      • Anon

        Cops are normal people. They also feel guilt when they do something wrong.

        • n4zhg

          Cops are normal people??? I guess, if you consider sociopaths normal…

          • Bob_Striffler

            Anon is a cop troll!

        • http://facebook.com/dballing/ Derek Balling

          Except he doesn’t feel he did anything wrong.

          • Anon

            I’m sure he does know he did something wrong, but he’s too cowardly to admit it. He doesn’t want to face the punishment he deserves.

          • http://facebook.com/dballing/ Derek Balling

            No, you see that’s the problem.

            The militarized police of the modern era DON’T think they’re doing something wrong here. This jackboot is convinced he did the right thing, that he had no choice, and that the shoot was 100% justified. That belief is reinforced by his superiors, to ensure that he will never hesitate to shoot one the plebeians if the opportunity presents itself again.

          • Bob_Striffler

            Anon is a cop troll!

    • http://facebook.com/dballing/ Derek Balling

      Why would he feel guilty? He thinks it was a justified “clean” shoot. Even to this day.

      You’re ascribing a much higher level of morality than is actually present in the modern law enforcement industry.

  • FtP

    Imagine that, a cop’s use of force report and video evidence not agreeing. I’m sure the other officer’s reports are accurate, right?
    Plus, why is Sherriff Babeu so eager to shoot people?

    • matism

      Because he’s just a GD pig. Just like every other pig in this country. There may be some small number of “good cops” out there. But they are few and far between. And only in the SMALLEST of agencies. And NOWHERE NEAR any of the hives.

  • Garnette

    So the cops lied and then they lie more to try and cover up their first lie. go figure… videos showing this are becoming common so congrats to brave people for video taping these armed murderous thugs and coming forward to stand up for what’s right!. HURRAH FOR GOOD PEOPLE!

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  • Dan-O

    Appears to be a case of comply or die syndrome.

    Is there any body or dash cam footage out there?

    What commands
    were given? Were there conflicting
    commands?

    How how many people were giving commands?

    • Rail Car Fan

      Which brings up the point…

      How many time have we seen a group of cops yelling at a single perp using confusing and opposite commands?

      “Put your hands behind your back”, shouts one cop… while a second cop commands “turn around with your hands above your head and walk backward toward my voice.” In the mean time you hear from a third cop… “DON’T MOVE or I’LL SHOOT!”

      Ok. Which is it guys? How about all of you getting on the same page here.

      Rail Car Fan

  • Pamela Lewis

    I would of shot him also, seems he wanted to die telling the officer you will have to kill me and I have a gun, its a shame the WHOLE truth at times is never represented! The witness who seen it all was the most helpful with info. we as citizens would not of KNOW, what the suspect said to the cop! In this case, the cops did the right thing to protect the community and self.

    • Steve Riddle

      Well thank goodness you’re NOT a cop Pamela! We’d all be in fear for our lives.

      • Bob_Striffler

        Have sex, you’re the girl!

    • Rob

      The whole truth is that a surrendering man with his EMPTY hands straight up in the air, was shot in the BACK by a coward with a badge.

      • Antonio Buehler

        That’s why we call them coward cops.

    • Guest

      Street justice? Lynchings? Why bother with trials when there are a few right minded people with badges and uniforms there to dish it out on the spot? The thing is, I don’t even think this was “street justice.” I think it was a cop that got scared out of his wits by the things this guy was saying and the way he was behaving. I think the cop panicked and shot while the suspect’s hands were high over his head. Does that make him a murderer? I don’t think so. That’s for a jury to decide. But it does make him unsuitable to ever wear that badge again. What makes him and all the officers on the scene criminals and traitors, is that not one of them wrote in their police reports the truth. That the suspect was shot while both his hands were raised straight and high over his head.

      • bacchys

        I don’t think first degree murder would be the proper charge. Maybe, but not based on what I know at this moment.

        But it’s not a justifiable homicide.

        I agree with you on the cops misrepresenting what happened in their reports- to a point. Memory is a strange thing. We think we remember things accurately, but we don’t usually. Our memory of what happened in a given moment is impacted by our later thoughts and conversations. Assuming for the sake of discussion that they didn’t intend to cover up a bad shoot, it’s quite possible in my opinion that their post-shooting conversations altered their recollections. Keep in mind that our memories of things aren’t frozen little snapshots of what happened. His earlier failure to cooperate, the threat/boast (if it was said)- all of that would affect how they recalled the incident.

        It’s also possible the cop who shot him didn’t recognize that his hands were in the air. While the retired cop says (correctly) that cops are trained to watch the hands, that doesn’t mean that’s what he was doing . It’s quite possible when the suspect turned his back, the cop *assumed* he was going for a weapon in the car and made the decision to shoot. What he did with his hands wouldn’t have registered quickly enough to change the decision. That doesn’t make this a justifiable shooting, but it does argue against the cop having the mens rea to be guilty of murder.

      • Bob_Striffler

        The problem with that is, he also might have done it to see what it felt like to shoot someone in the back knowing every one of his fellow scum would lie about it and the media would say very little about those lies as usual. Just another isolated incident….with the same MO over and over again! Lies on top of lies collectively, habitually and publically documented! The really repulsive part is these same officers testimony in court and in Jury Instructions is deemed expert and carries that kind of weight! We all saw the truth and they all blatantly lied! You’re supposed to accept it! That’s America Strong!

    • Bob_Striffler

      So they said! But that ain’t on tape, is it? Ironic, it never is!

    • bacchys

      Regardless of what he said, at the moment he was shot his hands were in the air in the symbol of surrender. He did not present a threat to that officer or any other.

      This wasn’t a lawful shoot.

  • Dave Edmonds

    Too much GTA5

  • terry

    the cop was in the wrong you dont shoot a unarmed man just because you think there might be a weapon you dont shoot untill you know there is a weapon

  • Rollis

    Scum Bag!!!

  • Ian C

    I am NOT pro police however, He should have used simple common sense. I encourage all to watch this PSA.

    “When you see flashing police lights in your mirror, STOP IMMEDIATELY!”

    • matism

      The pig who murdered him should have used simple common sense.

    • Bob_Striffler

      Black Chris Rock on compliance and I’m
      white! Dude! Who’s more white? What ever pays!

    • Rail Car Fan

      I watched the video. Made me laugh… but ain’t it the truth..!!..? The a$$ kicking part I mean, not the polite other.

      Rail Car Fan

  • n4zhg

    This is why police beat bystanders and steal/smash cell phones. “Pics or it didn’t happen.”

    • bacchys

      Close. If there’s no contradictory evidence, what the cop says is what happened.

  • USPatriotUno

    looks like murder to me.

  • Film The Police Always

    The Chief, Paul Babeu needs to be fired and the cop who pulled the trigger needs to be charged with murder. The man clearly had his hands in the air and he was murdered. Whats sad is, because he was a HISPANIC man, this case will slowly go away with no one being held accountable. I hope his Son becomes more and more enraged, and then I hope to hear on the news that the Son took out revenge and did the same to them that happened to his Father.

  • Dan-O

    From 2012 Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu drops bid for Congress after fallout from campaign volunteer scandal
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-sheriff-paul-babeu-drops-bid-for-congress-after-fallout-from-campaign-volunteer-scandal/

  • 3percenter191183

    this cop has signed his warrant, REGULATORS MOUNT UP! there is no reasoning with those that want to controll you, fight the god fight

    • 3percenter191183

      ‘ GOOD FIGHT’

  • Laurice Tatum

    Sheriff you have a lot to learn, about use of deadly force. You sir have a small brain.

    Maybe one day “God willing” you’ll learn to recognize and be able to discern when and where deadly force is to be used. Your comment about waiting a slit second highlights the importer training your Deputies receive. These are things I learned while attending the Police Academy. Why isn’t it being taught to your men? Maybe one day you’ll be able to think three dimensionally.

    This could well have been your father, brother or son. Your deputies failed in their duties to save life and protect property. They were all too willing to accommodate the suspect’s desire to commit suicide by cop, that my friend is a flaw in you and your department.

    “I do applaud your men on one thing.” At least the other deputies present didn’t start shooting in what is called “hysterical shooting.” This gives pause to consider maybe they didn’t recognize the threat that the shooting deputy says he perceived. The fact that your Deputy was cleared is very suggestive of an environment and culture which doesn’t place citizen safety first. Shoot first and ask question later is a sorry state of affairs.

    Please work on increasing your intellectual abilities and
    becoming a worthy law man.

    • Bob_Striffler

      HA! HA!HA! Tell em straight with all that!

    • Rail Car Fan

      It was stated in the above post…

      “These are things I learned while attending the Police Academy. Why isn’t it being taught to your men?”

      Because what is being taught in today’s academy isn’t what was taught years and years ago.

      As a example… Years ago you were taught to ask “Do you mind if I search your vehicle?” You had a 50/50 chance of not being allowed to do so. If the response from the driver was “YES” they obviously were saying “Yes, they mind” and didn’t want you to search.

      A number of years ago the academy taught a different way to ask You were taught to ask the question in a “negative connotation and voice reflection”, ie: “You DON’T mind if I search your vehicle.” (It’s being said as a statement… not as a question.)

      Look at the two ways of saying it. “Do you mind” requires permission to do so… while “You DON’T mind” gives full permission no matter what the answer is.

      With “You DON’T mind” and the answer is yes, then the driver is saying “yes, I don’t mind”… while if the drivers answer is no, then they are saying “No, I don’t mind”.

      Either way the cop gets to do what (s)he wants to.

      Rail Car Fan

      • Laurice Tatum

        Rail Car Fan as I see it they’re being taught to violate civil rights. There is no excuse for that. They being taught that it’s OKay to trample your and every other law abiding citizens rights. Is that really what you’re suggesting? Are you suggesting its OKay to say screw them – your guilty until proven innocent? Surely you as a reasonable and prudent person can see my point of view.

  • Antonio Buehler

    Standard Operating Procedure. Cops commit crimes. Cops lie. When proven, nothing changes.

  • FtP

    Remember, it was not the cop’s bullets that killed him. Instead, his heart was weakened from a prior history of drug use and his death just happened to coincide when the police were near.

    Hereafter known as “The Thomas Kelly Defense”.

    • FtP

      …previously known as “The David Sal Silva Defense”.
      …previously known as …
      ad infinitum

  • Meghan sullivan

    Don’t break the law

    • matism

      That would be a good start for this country’s GD pigs. May they burn in hell for what they have done.

    • Bob_Striffler

      Fuck off!

    • Rail Car Fan

      That’s good advice for cops to follow… but I seriously doubt if they’ll follow your offering.

      Rail Car Fan

  • Baron_of_Greymatter

    We need people there to film the arrests and beatings of protesters after the inevitable “Not Guilty” verdict.

  • Zhaliberty

    Liar Liar pants on fire. Still waiting for all the good cops to make it hard for the bad cops. When the cops, er I mean gang-with-badges-culture becomes one of actually putting those murderous thugs in their place then I’ll think freedom is coming back to America. Until then,
    “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Police States of America. . . .”

  • WTF

    The Oscar Grant tactic and defense of police actions and officer safety.

  • Mark

    Police brutality on the rise. This is sickening. Fuck that.

  • Bob_Striffler

    Even I down thumbed my own responses Anon and I knew you’d be there bro! Dumbass it was so easy! You’re a douche! You practically agreed with me and I was lying! Of course that cops a coward! So are you! Duh! Cop Troll!

  • Bob_Striffler

    You’re incapable of seeing the big picture with your well thought out 2 second articulate blurbs! You know! There are those of us who’ve been at this thirty years+! Quit shitting yellow and green mustard when you talk your talk!! Or fold up!

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  • Larry Harrell

    another murder that is going unpunished because it was a thug in uniform that committed the murder!!! and the cop that was talking in the video is a stupid SOB that doesn’t need to carry a badge just like 80 percent of the ones that carry a badge today!!!! I didn’t see any time in the video where lethal force was justified!!! disobeying a cops orders doesnt justify them killing a person!!! not to mention the mans arms were raised before the shots were fired!! no wonder more and more people don’t trust the cops!!! they are doing more and more wrong because they get by with it!!!!

  • Bob_Striffler

    Tell us all how you really feel! You’ll feel better….no change…you’ll just feel better…ask Anon?

  • Bob_Striffler

    That’s till he changes his name again, gets on other sites and plays his troll games! Anon. I’m waiting! I’m gone as soon as people say so!

  • CornbreadDamnitCornbread

    Someone kill that cop. I’d love to, but I live too far away

  • devius1

    murder charges should be filed, immediately followed by an investigation, in to the cover up of evidence an hindering of an internal affairs investigation perptrated by the sherif and his dept

  • Anonymooser

    Yeah, …I’m speechless. At my old job if I was 5 minutes late they would fire me. But as a police officer you can kill suspects that are surrendering and you get a 1 week paid vacation.

  • Ian Cochran

    The Sheriff said he would fired sooner???That is one county I will never set foot in. He basically said that he and his deputies have a right to summarily execute you.

    • Frodo

      Which is something I’m sure a great deal of cops believe they have a right to do.

  • Tijuana Joe

    Putting your hands in the air is “suicide by cop”?
    Looks more like “Homicide by cop” to me.

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  • HDNKR

    Police suicide!

    • matism

      Hopefully the pig who murdered him will indeed commit suicide. And soon…

  • Burgers Allday
    • Rail Car Fan

      Read the article via the link, which said in part…

      “In his book, Crime Scene Handbook, Dr. Henry Lee, the former
      director of the Connecticut State Police Crime Lab, wrote, ‘If
      officer-involved shootings are not investigated and handled
      correctly and thoroughly, the involved agency, individual
      officer(s), and entire criminal justice system will likely face
      severe criticism, loss of public trust and confidence’.”

      Ya Think..!!..?

      Rail Car Fan

  • matt s

    This shooting of civilians has to stop….lethal force should be the absolute last resort! Non lethal methods were being utilized and the suspect brandished no weapon! This is a result of militarizing our local police forces….protect and serve does not require military type training for patrol officers…they will likely never encounter situations which require the same level of training as our military members serving overseas, and if they do, they need to secure a parameter and call in SWAT. The number of police involved shootings of unarmed suspects are climbing at an almost staggering and unthinkable rate and its because we are training them like combat Marines!

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  • hardh8

    Paul Babeu is a national hero for standing up against the illegal alien invading border criminals and that dirty piece of shit 0bamay. As for the deputy he’s guilty of murder it appears,

    • BusPasss

      Babeu is now officially a dirtbag for defending the deputy.

    • Flip

      A “national hero” for making political statements against another politician? I think not. He is an accessory to this crime, as he is ultimately responsible for the behavior, training, and discipline of the officers under his command. If the officer murdered a man, and he defends the actions of the officer, he is the head of a criminal organization.

  • USMCVeteran

    I used to like Babeu, now I see that he’s just a POS like so many others.

    • BusPasss

      I sent him money for his House run in 2010. I sent him an email yesterday saying I am ashamed I ever sent him a dime.

  • Rex

    “However, Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu insists the man should have
    been killed much earlier because he wasn’t complying with their orders.”

    So, not “complying with orders” is now a capitol offense, to be judged and executed on the spot. Well, thanks for clearing that up!

    And at the end of the video the Reporter (actually, reader) says that the situations that officers are involved in are becoming “More dangerous”. BULLSHIT! Cop doesn’t even rate in the top ten dangerous jobs, violent crime is down, and the only thing making an Officers life more dangerous is Officers going around beating and shooting people for NO DAMNED GOOD REASON, which I sense people are getting increasingly tired of.

  • Bob_Striffler

    The problem here is, he also might have done it to see what it felt like to shoot someone in the back knowing ahead of time every one of his fellow scum would lie about it and the media would say very little about those lies as usual. (No outrage) Just another isolated incident….with the same MO over and over again! Lies on top of lies collectively, habitually and publically documented! The really repulsive part is these same officers testimony in court and in Jury Instructions is deemed expert and carries that kind of weight! We all saw the truth and they all blatantly lied together! You’re supposed to accept it! That’s America Strong!

  • coastx

    Inquisition cop (ILEO) is a Crypto directed phenomenon, police predisposed to debauchery all too eager to put their human sacrifice skills to use to be s part of this new predator species of “humanity”. Tactical is a good thing to know, but in THESE circumstances… Someone made kill points for taking out anther human being with a mental health issue. Recall Babeu.

  • lilbear68

    the voters have to start demanding the arrest and jailing of the pigs that do this, the resignation of the chiefs that condone it or start recalling the polititians that fail to positively act in removing these pigs. if not they you give silent approval to these actions and if you do that you can expect more of these incidents over time

  • Jay Hanig

    If the sheriff would have shot him even sooner, then he needs to lose his certification. As for the officer, he needs to face charges for murder. The suspect/victim’s hands weren’t just in the air, they were HIGH in the air with his arms straight. The cops were under no threat at that moment and the shooting was just a plain execution.

    I usually lean towards giving LE the benefit of the doubt but the slow motion video removes all doubt. The deputy murdered the victim.

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  • Guest

    Shot him in the back… what puzzys.

  • Marcus Antonius

    Welcome to the Obama/Bush, Marxist/Fascist, Police State.
    Sic Semper Tyrannis !

    • Bob_Striffler

      Exactly!

  • Paul Kisling

    That sheriff is a piece of work. What a justification. Yes he was surrendering but it doesn’t matter because I would have killed him long ago??? What the hell?

    • Bob_Striffler

      America Strong?

      • Paul Kisling

        Not sure. More like Low Impulse Control Strong. Like a klepto that shoots people.

    • Guest

      “That sheriff is a piece of work.”

      I only disagree with one word.

  • paulthecabdriver

    This just goes to prove no one should ever release video or photos of cops doing evil things until after the cops have made their statements. And never ever voluntarily surrender video footage to the police; rather always make it public.

  • R.Young

    Ah yes in the New AMERIKA soon now we will no longer have a need for Courts once all LEO’s are given the authority to be Judge, Jury and Executioner, it’s the NEW AQMERIKA just the most wonderful place to live L O L !

  • OhSnapDJB

    All I know is that we ALL better start knowing and exercising our rights.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002329011677 Jaysin R Clifton

    “should have been killed, earlier?” slow down judge dredd, are cops executing people for the “offense” of not following orders? some are criminals and aren’t going to, you don’t kill all of them. this guy wasn’t even armed, if the cops don’t see a gun, it should life in prison for the cop that murdered this unarmed man. this man was being contained by beanbags and posed no threat, he wouldn’t have lasted much longer. This reminds me of Waco, where the FBI just didn’t want to wait, maybe they wanted to take lunch, and killed everybody they could, including kids.

  • Politiva_com

    just shoot everybody first, then you don’t have to worry about them complying with your orders.

  • Haeshu

    No wonder the cops don’t like these pesky cameras! This stupid thing known as the truth keeps rearing its ugly head whenever one is around.

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  • panhead20

    Standard police procedure; shoot and kill first, make up a reason later.

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