March 2nd, 2014

Topeka Cop Tickets Teen for Recording him Speeding 94

By Carlos Miller

At 17 years of age, Addison Mikkelson is on a mission to keep police in Topeka, Kansas honest.

But the more he tries, the more he realizes he has his work cut out for him.

As you may remember, Mikkelson was arrested for jaywalking in December when he crossed the street to try and video record cops at a convenience station.

Then in January, he was confronted by police officer who used every line in the book to try to keep him from video recording a security checkpoint in the state’s capitol building.

His latest run-in involves him video recording a Topeka police officer who had been speeding ten miles over the speed limit, then didn’t use his turn signal and didn’t come to a complete stop at a stop sign.

When the cop, whose last name is Cartmill,  noticed Mikkelson video recording from his car, he gave him two citations; one for “inattentive driving,” another for having a “TV screen in view of the driver.”

In this case, the television screen was his camera screen.

Mikkelson says the citation is not legible, so he is unable to make out the actual statute numbers, but below is a state statute regarding the television screen violation, which part of it says it was repealed while another part says it was amended, so I’m going to assume the section that is crossed out was repealed to be amended by the section in italics.

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And while there doesn’t seem to be a state statute regarding inattentive driving, there is a Topeka city code that addresses it

10.20.100 Inattentive, negligent or unsafe driving.

(a) Inattentive Driving. Every driver shall remain alert and give full attention to the safe operation of his vehicle while it is in motion, and any driver who does not shall be in violation of this subsection.

(b) Negligent Driving. No driver, while operating or attempting to operate his vehicle, shall engage in any activity or do any act which interferes with the safe control of his vehicle.

(c) Unsafe Driving. No person shall operate or halt any vehicle in such a manner as to indicate a careless or heedless disregard for the rights or safety of others, or in such a manner as to endanger, or be likely to endanger, any person or property. (Ord. 17421 § 2, 10-19-99. Code 1995 § 142-192.)

And if you look through both links, you will violations for speeding, not using a turn signal and failing to come to a complete stop, violations committed by Cartmill, which Mikkelson captured on his camera.

And while I haven’t been able to confirm if Topeka police officers use laptops in their cars like so many other police officers from around the country do, I did come across a picture of a Lawrence police officer, also in Kansas, using these devices, which would make them in violation of the law. The second picture shows a Topeka police officer who seems to have the platform for a laptop in her car.

But as we are reminded time after time, cops are above the law.

Call the Topeka Police Department at (785) 368-9551.

UPDATED: Mikkelson has since confirmed that Topeka police officers do use the laptops in their cars.

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  • Jeffrey Marcus Gray

    Addison is simply amazing! Watching this video its easy to see how most people would lose their cool but not Addison .
    Addison simply remains cool and documents the cop making a complete buffoon of himself and reveling what a childlike mentality he possesses. Addison you are cool as ice!

    • G

      It ironic that cops can cite you for using cellphones while driving; however, I have seen cops driving while using their cellphones.

      I won’t be surpise if we have a series of Photography is not a Crime regarding the the Kansas cops and Mr. Mikkelson.

      • Phil Logan-Kelly

        If I’m not mistaken, in Oregon, police are exempt from the cell phone law.

        • n4zhg

          Police are exempt from the cell phone law everywhere.

          • Jim

            What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Cops should NOT be allowed. IF its dangerous for US, isn’t it MORE dangerous for cops? As they are usually driving FASTER than we are,

          • Nancy Robinson-Jackson

            you’re right, But they will say we have been trained

          • Paul Kisling

            I would then demand training documentation as well as statutory proof.

          • pinbalwyz

            I’m not certain I’d agree. Cops often have to remain in contact with dispatch and each other as a critical part of their safety. They don’t want to arrive on a scene unaware there’s gun battle going on, or some such. I do, agree, however, that they should be using blue tooth voice so they can keep their hands on the steering wheel and their eyes on the road. I’m able to do that with the sync feature in a C-Max, so they should be able to do as well. Cops should be required to keep both hands on their steering wheel while driving, and their eyes on the road–especially given it’s not possible to do so while not interrupting the safety offered by communicating with dispatch and other LEO’s.
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          • LibertyEbbs

            That’s a pretty narrow view ; )

            “Police are exempt from the law everywhere.”

            I’d say give or take a case here and there, that about captures it.

        • Grindstone50k

          What laws are they NOT exempt from?

          • Ian Battles

            They’re obviously exempt from “Filing a False Report” and “Perjury” charges…

          • pinbalwyz

            De facto, if not in theory or in law.
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      • Jim

        Not just using cell phones while driving. SPEEDING with NO LIGHTS while talking on a cell phone and no seat belt. SO…. EVERYTHING they’d cite us for.

    • Carlos_Miller

      Addison handled it like a cop would. Like a real cop. One who respects the law and Constitution.

      If you look at the video and listen to him speak, that could be straight out of an episode of the TV show Cops.

      But the “Bad Boys” are the cops, which doesn’t surprise us, but it certainly will surprise a lot of people.

      • pinbalwyz

        The young photographer engaged in a battle of wits with the LEO, which I think he lost. Time will tell when he goes to court. He certainly lost his cool at the end, which kinda of diminishes the who point of video capturing the cop in the first place.
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  • Fotaugrafee

    Carlos, apparently KSA 8-1748(b) covers the law enforcement use of the laptop. Now I would agree with you if that meant using the laptop while actually DRIVING, which most of these pigs tend to do when digging for dirt on license plates while they’re in motion.

    IMO, there should be a feature, by law, in which the laptop is hardwired to the vehicle & does NOT allow it to be operated while the vehicle is in motion, IMO. Shit, if my car stereo can do this while my bluetooth / hands-free setup is activated, this should be no problem for law-enforcement & their laptops.

    • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

      A number of departments have it set up to automatically blank the screen when the squadcar is either in gear or moving.

      • Carlos_Miller

        I’ve seen plenty of cops driving and typing at the same time, which is not a problem with me because that means, they’re not harassing me.

        I just stay out of their way, moving ahead of them if I’m in a hurry, or staying behind them in case I want to record them doing it, which I wouldn’t do because they never harass me as I’m texting and driving.

        They don’t harass anybody for that down here, despite a new state law, which is all right with me ( I know some with disagree).

        • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

          My old PD did not set it up that way, and I use to run plates all the time while driving, so I can see both points of view.

          I would be interested to find out how the new license plate cameras on squadcars interface with computers that are blanked out. Maybe they’ll go to a screen reader (or something like it).

      • theaton

        “A number……”

        Would that number be around 5?

        • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

          LOL, not hardly. I can think of twice that number just in my county.

          • theaton

            Well, give me a number because I don’t know of any in my county? What is the legal definition of “A number?”

          • Guest

            And does he mean “departments” or cars? Are these “police” departments? Are there 10+ police departments in his county? I wonder because he has shown himself many times to be careless and sloppy with his words and thoughts.

      • pinbalwyz

        Hmmm…that’s a mixed ‘blessing’. What if there’s a vital piece of information for the LEO’s safety unavailable because the screen was blanked as he arrives on a scene?
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        • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

          Six of one, 1/2 dozen of the other…

          If they are reading it while driving, they and the public are at risk too.

  • kraz

    Good job Addison. This is far from usual though. Almost every other squad car I see is speeding and not using their turn signals. They are very often on the cell phone as well. I’m sure that everyone that drives would say they see the same thing. In Central New Jersey the police have tinted windows. In fact they are the darkest tint you can get. It is illegal in NJ and many other states to drive with a certain percent tint for safety reasons yet the police do it.One example: http://www.flickr.com/photos/policecararchives/3759205441/
    I have received a ticket by a cop in NJ for my tint while the tint on his car was darker than mine.

    • CEDUPZ

      Yup in Jersey they have blacked out windows far above legal…but special hereos exempt themselves, it’s pure BS. they have the nerve to ticket others, for the shit they do….ruling class of thugs. so when they drive at night with blacked out windows super heroes must have night vision, to see properly through the blacked out illegal windows, hope when they get into a wreck, the blacked out windows are noted, of course their cop buddies will not unless demanded…why do they need blacked out windows, this ain’t Fla, what are they hiding, oooo, illegal CELL phone use? Looking at the illegal LAPTOP screens…..

      • Tijuana Joe

        “why do they need blacked out windows”
        Or why do they need those new hot rod cars? Or all those gadgets
        and gizmos on their belts? Or the Disneyland Electric Lights show for

        a simple traffic stop? It’s all about ego, hubris. The cult of cop.

        • kraz

          It’s about ego and intimidation. It’s as if they get their police cars to look as intimidating as possible. Even some of their uniforms. When I lived in Philadelphia, the Philly Highway Patrol dressed almost like the Nazi SS with the leather jackets and leather strap across their chest and leather knee-high boots. They were known to harass and abuse people. They tried to instill fear in people which seems to be the modern way of policing. I’ve asked a lot of people about how they feel when there’s a police car behind them on the road. Ideally, the right answer should be that they feel relieved or nothing. Without fail they all say they feel nervous and I’m talking about friends. family and co-workers who are all law abiding people.

          • Paul Kisling

            If they want to instill fear have them take Intersate 78-80.

      • Paul Kisling

        Its a really good way to identify cop cars because they do it to the unmarked ones too.

    • ntotrr

      Cops don’t have to obey traffic laws, I think we all know that. I live amongst quite a few cops on my block. One is highway patrol. He leaves for his shift the same time I do for work. There is a stretch of the main road that has a 40 mph speed limit just after we exit our development. He, in his patrol car, routinely travels about 70mph down the road for about 1 1/2 miles to get to the parkway. He has given tickets to people on that same road who break the 40mph limit when he is on his way home from his shift (highway patrol keep their patrol cars with them at their homes). Unfortunately, this behavior will never change.

  • darbea

    I thought the kid was doing pretty good until he kept calling the cop a loser. It doesn’t matter whether or not it’s the truth, it was just inappropriate, and borderline dangerous. Cops have beat up and killed people for much less, and cleared of any wrongdoing.

    • Jeffrey Marcus Gray

      I agree that Addison calling the cop a loser was inappropriate. The appropriate thing to call him would be a liar.

      • ST

        Driving with a camera is kinda crazy too. That was the worst part of it. Maybe he should have a sidekick recording while he drives.

        • Voice-Of-Concern

          I think Addison would benefit from a Looxcie or similar head mounted camera. If he does not have the $$ to spend on a dashboard camera, sometimes an old cellphone can be converted to that purpose, with a $10 mount from amazon.com

      • Tijuana Joe

        Yeah, imagine if Rosa Parks had been spouting off obscenities as they hauled her off to jail. It would have ruined the whole thing.
        Let *them* be the emotional brutes. They’re quite good at it.

      • Guest

        I’d go with “traitor.” But “liar” is fine too.

        • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

          Use of the word “traitor” will cause you to lose all credibility with any decision-makers who could take corrective action.

          • theaton

            Why, is that word banned?

          • Guest

            Because the truth hurts.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            No, it is typically misused. You’re going to be dealing with lawyers and those who are advised by lawyers, who know the actual legal definition of the word and what has to be proven.

            But go ahead if you prefer to use it. It will just make it about ten times as hard to get your point across.

          • theaton

            I don’t prefer to use it unless it fits. However, the “legal definition” has nothing to do with the discussion. We are talking about calling a cop that on the street, not in a court of law. The word traitor in this context fits the dictionary definition so using it on the street would be valid.

            Merriam-Webster: Traitor: 1:one who betrays another’s trust or is false to an obligation or duty.

          • Guest

            I agree.

            “I will support the Constitution of the United States.”

            If we refuse to use the word for betraying this highest trust, obligation and duty, when will we use it?

            “If not now, when?” – Rabbi Hillel

          • Cop_licker

            It’s funny to me, how some folks seem like they just want to oppose everything you say. Avoiding unnecessary/incorrect use of “traitor” makes sense to me.

          • Guest

            Just different points of view. “Traitor” is unnecessary and incorrect to you. Necessary and correct to me. Given your username, your point of view isn’t surprising.

      • Pat Lane

        Addison was driving with a camera. He may have been charged with the wrong thing, but it would not surprise me to learn there was an appropriate charge. If he’d like to do this perhaps he should get a cell phone mount in the car so that he can drive normally and just let the video roll. I got a cell phone tripod where the legs are flexible and able to wrap around everything. Used it to record driving in the snow this winter and it cost literally $5.

        Seems like an OK person, but some of his commentary during the driving and the repeated “You’re a loser” hurts everything in my (biased) opinion.

  • CEDUPZ

    they have so much shit in and on a cop car, it all goes flying in a crash, what a bunch of morons! Are all that crap DOT and SAE approved for use in motor vehicles? If not it should not be installed FMVSS108 pertains to lights, are all that strobing shit legal? Talk about INATTENTIVE driving with all that crap on the dash blocking vision…they all drive unsafe…see cops all the time making UNSAFE lane changes, speeding going from left lane to a right lane exit at teh last minute causing everyone to slam their brakes on…they are truly SPECIAL, possibly STEROIDED high and unaware of how STUPID they drive?

    • Pat Lane

      You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Computers and such in cop cars are bolted down hard, probably harder than your seat in your car.

      • CEDUPZ

        It’s not safe, nor is it in OEM from when the car is mfg. and passes crash tests etc…its’ aftermarket crap, probably all illegal, and unsafe. Let’s see the DOT and SAE stickers and registration labels on it….if it is added on AFTER mfg it’s not part of crash tests when a car is designed and cert. Cops are special, in everything hey do and use….anything attached not from teh mfg is not supposed to be there, same reason us peons can get a ticket fro stuff added on…

        • Pat Lane

          “its aftermarket crap, probably all illegal, and unsafe”
          Nope. Not illegal. BTW its not illegal for civilians to have a similar set up if they wish. Many states may say its illegal to use the computer while driving, but many of those same states its illegal for the police to use it in motion too. Ambulances have them, many contractors have them in their trucks.

      • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

        Yeah, right.

        Is that why my whole console became disconnected on me while running hot to a call? The Toughbook, mount, etc., ended up in my lap and I was lucky that I didn’t wreck out.

        • Pat Lane

          Well then you must have worked for a department with a crappy garage. I myself was rear ended (I was stationary) by someone going over 80+ and yet… all of that stuff stayed exactly where it was supposed to.

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            It was contracted out.

  • DocRambo

    Would like to see contact numbers/emails/facebook pages linked to reports like this to make it easier for us to send them our feelings regarding such actions. Eventually, if police chiefs get enough crap from us, they may rein in their officers.

    • Nancy Robinson-Jackson

      yes I would, I wonder if they have a face book page?

  • Film The Police Always

    Addison is doing a great job. If I were him I’d be contacting CNN, Fox News, and any other news group that will listen. As for those charges, well they are bullshit. That cop should be suspended for not serving and protecting. If he’s that quick to get even over something like this, what other GET EVEN things would he do that could put someone in prison. This cop is dangerous and this needs to be investigated.

    Not sure if Addison will be reading this, but ADDISON, you must file a complaint with internal affairs on this jerk off.

    • Nancy Robinson-Jackson

      your right, just think what he’s like with out a camera on him!

  • JayBone

    This was nothing more than a simple power trip on the part of the officer to indirectly punish Addison for filming. This is how easy it is for a cop to make up frivolous charges when someone is doing nothing wrong.

  • Ron

    If this guy gets a ticket for his camera then the other cop should also get a ticket for speeding, not using his turn signal and not stopping a a stop sign.

  • Scott

    Mr. Addison, thank you for your efforts. In the future please avoid name calling. It simply weakens your position and makes you seem less than. The officer’s behavior was certainly illegal/improper, but your behavior draws attention away from his actions. I know it can be infuriating to be arrested for no legal reason as you were, but try to keep in mind how the video will play out, and how much better it will be if the only objectionable behavior is from the police. Thanks again for keeping them accountable.

    • Carlos_Miller

      I agree. You need to keep your cool.

      But I understand how infuriating it can be, which is why I’ve lost my cool on several occasions. It’s very hard not to.

      But the key is to allow them to lose their cool and getting it all on camera.

      More importantly, it’s about knowing the law and knowing your rights, which you have down pat.

      • Nancy Robinson-Jackson

        I agree, Knock them down with common sense and logic, kick them with facts and knowledge, and then kill them with kindness

    • jackassletters

      I disagree. He called the guy a loser. There’s probably some part of that cop that wants respect and admiration. Letting him know he’s not getting it is exactly what Addison needs to do. If more people let these guys know the job they are doing is thankless, perhaps they would start trying to do the job in a manner that invited gratitude rather than ridicule.

      • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

        Nah, cops have people go off on them all the time. He followed the standard pattern that some citizens follow. Argumentative or assertive during the initial contact, then venting after they find out they are being cited. All he did is confirm to the cop that he got to him (Addison) and pissed him off.

        He’ll tell other officers how he took care of Addison for following him around, etc. If anything, it will encourage further such behavior unless there is sufficient outrage from the community to the police department.

        It would have been better to follow the advice of Carlos and Jeff and others who have done this successfully in the past.

        • Voice-Of-Concern

          Can you be specific, as to what you are saying folks should do?

          • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

            OK, most of the first part of the contact was OK. He addressed the speeding, etc.

            The loser part needs to be dropped. Don’t argue over the citation, it won’t go anywhere and should be addressed in court.

            Ask for a supervisor. You probably won’t get one, but you should ask.

            And file a complaint. If it is possible to file a criminal complaint with the prosecutor, do that. Drop the speeding, you can’t prove the speed. Focus on the other violations.

      • pinbalwyz

        That’s not how human nature works. Beating a horse never makes it a better ride. Just document the facts and present them when the time comes. Don’t get into a war of egos with a LEO or that’s how the judge/jury will perceive it. If you exercise discipline and capture the facts, they’ll speak for themselves.
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  • Matheus Grunt

    The LEO community feels above the rule of law and it acts in such the manner that makes them feel that way. They literally violate the Constitution for a living. Their attitude is that you/me are nothing and that they’re it all on these streets and if we don’t comply we’re screwed. The mentality of “we’re above the Law” is common amongst cops/deputies and they’re all even more corrupt for it. They all need to be arrested by us and we need to stop tolerating them for now on.

  • Addison Marshall Mikkelson

    I could have said a lot worse, but it takes a lot for me to lose my cool. I just couldn’t believe what was happening, but I never lose my cool when speaking to the police because they aren’t worth it.

    • pinbalwyz

      Addison, believe it or not, the time may come when you’ll be relying on a cop to save your life or that of a loved one. Don’t become a bigot. You are learning the rules. Some cops don’t follow them. You’re learning how to document this. That’s actually the easy part. Learning how to hold them accountable using the documentation is the hard part. You’ll need to learn considerably more people skills to be consistently persuasive before a judge/jury. When you eventually get that down, you’ll be ready for prime time.
      - amicuscuria.com/wordpress -

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  • Alexander Vucelic

    Great video proof – cop is obviously retaliating and harassing this American.

    Time for complaint in this cop’s file ! Cost this cop real money in lost promotions and perks. One compliant in a file can cost a young cop $20,000-$100,000 over the course of his career !

  • Nancy Robinson-Jackson

    if a citizen has the right to make a citizen arrest, then where does his power stop at? shouldn’t he have a right’ to some how keep the police in line? this cop broke 3 traffic law’s. do you think that his boss or anybody else will hold him accountable? he should at least get the tickets.

    • Tijuana Joe

      Well if it’s severe enough and damages occur there are consequences.
      Exhibit A: a video where the cop pulls in front of the cameraman’s
      car and hits the breaks, causing a collision. That goon was fired or resigned.

      • Frodo

        The cop was not forced to resign, it was his personal decision. If a cop wants to cut you off in traffic and cause an accident with his vehicle cause he got angry on the road, then the police department will back him up. As a matter of fact, that very police department gave him his old job back after he changed his mind about resigning.

        • http://excoplawstudent.wordpress.com/ ExCop-LawStudent

          Yes, but in a detention capacity, not a patrol capacity.

          I don’t agree with it, but for the sake of transparency it was not the same job.

  • StreyDawg

    I support what you do, and I like your work, AM. If you are going to record while driving, I recommend you do it right and get a dash or window mount. In fact, I recommend two.

    This cop is a peanus.

    Thanks for sharing.

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  • jwalsh

    We know the police don’t have to obey traffics laws….they just enforce them.

  • Brent Busch

    Their “professional” standards dept needs to learn some professionalism. Telling me “thanks for bringing it to my attention” and then hanging up on me is not remotely professional.

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  • Dominick Roselli

    Topeka police,

    The abuse of power is disturbing. The harassment of this young man MUST stop!

    Below I have a video link to a You tube video.

    Really? You are kidding right?

    Honor Your Oath!

    I honor mine!

    CPT Darin Scott
    Professional Standards

    I copied you so you could look into this.

    djroselli@hotmail.com

    Chief Ronald Miller
    Chief of Police
    785-368-9437
    rmiller@topeka.org

    CPT Darin Scott
    Professional Standards
    368-9085
    jscott@topeka.org
    785-368-9427
    tkirk@topeka.org

  • Dominick Roselli

    Topeka police,
    The abuse of power is disturbing. The harassment of this young man MUST stop!
    Below I have a video link to a You tube video.
    Really? You are kidding right?
    Honor Your Oath!
    I honor mine!
    CPT Darin Scott
    Professional Standards
    I copied you so you could look into this.

    djroselli@hotmail.com

  • NoLeaders

    Was the Osborne officer in the second traffic stop at the end with the Sherriff or OPD? I’d like to call and compliment them for their professionalism.

  • steveo

    I’ve always wondered how these laws intersect with the 1st Amendment and the right to gather news and the free press. More than likely that if you could prove that the operation is hands free and there is no interaction needed by the driver with the recording device while driving, that enforcement of these statutes would be unconstitutional in the instance where the recording device is more like a dash cam with a view screen. Or that you have a hands free mount for the smart phone. We have distracted driving laws in FL, but not the video screen deal.

    The SHARK guy is always getting these kinds of tickets too, he always goes to court and the leos never show up, so there is never any way to bring the issue to a higher court.

  • a militant mind

    when I lived in Houston I witnessed on several occasion motorcycle police on their cellphones while driving down I10 in Houston city limits. fuckin idiots!

  • Dominick Roselli

    CPT Darin Scott
    Professional Standards
    785 368-9085
    jscott@topeka.org
    topeka pd
    send an email

  • Paul Kisling

    This guy is going ream them in court.

  • pinbalwyz

    The criticism of Kansas LEO’s for using laptops would appear to be mooted by the Statute’s language exempting screens used for safety and/or approved by the head of KS State patrol. While I admire this young man’s pluck, he needs to tighten up on the discipline if he’s going to pursue these confrontations. He loses it toward the end while receiving a citation, insulting the LEO, and basically presenting a damaging image for advocates of photography rights. For this reason, I won’t be linking to this video. Try to keep a dignified demeanor and remember it isn’t just the cop being captured on video.

    It does sound, technically, like the young man may have violated one of the finer points of the law cited. I suspect it’s unconstitutionally broad/vague, but it takes a lot of energy and expense to pursue that to the end. I want to rig up my vehicle (C-Max ENERGI SEL) with a forward and back camera integrated into the license plate holder or signal and tail lights w/digital recording module as well as wiring to permit seeing the view on the car’s console screen. As here, it may be disadvantageous to announce you have a camera in your hand, especially in Kansas. I’d like a radar detector integrated below the hood rather than obviously mounted on the dashboard for much the same reason. It would be cool (if available) to have a radar unit that could clock and document the speed of a cop you’re following as well. I foresee Star Wars on the highways. Shields UP!
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  • StreyDawg

    If anyone is focusing on the fact that AM called the cop a loser, you are missing the point.

    Entirely.

    BTW, this cop is a loser.

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