May 17th, 2014

Illinois Deputy Threatens to Arrest Man for Video Recording him in Public 52

By Carlos Miller

A Cook County sheriff’s deputy who kept referring to his more than two decades of law enforcement experience did his best to intimidate a citizen from recording him, even to the point of pulling out his handcuffs and ordering the man to turn around.

But when the man and his female companion insisted on knowing what law was being broken, the deputy started spouting out lies.

“You cannot record a police officer in the services of his duty, this is a court order, ok, so turn it off,” said the deputy, who remains unidentified at this point.

But that law no longer exists in Illinois.

However, the deputy apparently knew he was making it up as he went along because he didn’t follow through on his threat of arrest, even though the video lasted more than five minutes.

“You don’t know the law, I can confiscate your phone if I want to,” the deputy said.

“Put the phone away, sir … you know I can arrest you for taking pictures of me right now.”

“What are you going to arrest me for?” the man asks at one point in the video.

“Because you’re being an asshole now,” the deputy responds.

In other words, the man with the camera was guilty of contempt-of-cop, which is not illegal but always liable to land you in jail.

“Do you want me to record you while you’re doing something? I’m recording you right now,” the deputy eventually admits.

The deputy also threatened to incarcerate the man for up to 48 hours for refusing to identify himself, but the law in Illinois, like the law in many states, requires the officer to have a reasonable suspicion that the person committed a crime in order to be able to arrest somebody for refusing to identify.

(725 ILCS 5/107-14) (from Ch. 38, par. 107-14) 
    Sec. 107-14. Temporary questioning without arrest. A peace officer, after having identified himself as a peace officer, may stop any person in a public place for a reasonable period of time when the officer reasonably infers from the circumstances that the person is committing, is about to commit or has committed an offense as defined in Section 102-15 of this Code, and may demand the name and address of the person and an explanation of his actions. Such detention and temporary questioning will be conducted in the vicinity of where the person was stopped. 
(Source: Laws 1968, p. 218.)

Here are some phone numbers for the Cook County Sheriff’s Office website.

Cook County Sheriff’s Office
50 W. Washington
Chicago, Illinois  60602
(312) 603-6444
sheriff.dart@cookcountyil.gov

Questions? The answers may be here:
Frequently Asked Questions

Cook County Sheriff’s Police: (708)-865-4700
Non-Emergency (847) 635-1188
Desk Officer (708) 865-4790
Sheriff’s.Police@cookcountyil.gov


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  • John H Johnson III

    Somebody give that chick some balls to record that cop and stop recording the damn ground because she’s scared.

    • JCFROMNJ

      It take’s practice and a give a shit attitude to the end results. Take as many of them with you on the way down…..There is an endless supply of hourly employee wanna be’s to fill the gap.

  • LibertyEbbs

    I am not sure if that cop was even sober. Anyone else think that he was a little sauced up?

    • inquisitor

      …drunk with power.

      • LibertyEbbs

        Well, of course, that goes without saying, but I have pretty good drunkdar and it was beeping like crazy…I’m thinking functional alcoholic.

        • inquisitor

          He does have that swollen face, pickled look most definitely.

      • n4zhg

        Drunk on ‘roids.

  • Jim Morriss

    Don’t give your phoe to your whiney assed girl friend, who then whips the phone around to the verticle position and does not record any thing of value. I hope she has some talents other than covering your ass buddy, because she aint shit for watching out for you. The only thing she had to do is keep the camera properly oriented and focused on the cop and you. But she was unable to point a camera and ask a question at the same time. next time give it to the dog.

    • Roscoe Roskovitch

      Damned females!!

    • n4zhg

      Next time, have a body camera rolling, too.

      • Frank Morris

        Good advice, but judging by what I see, I don’t think it’s applicable here, as the youngsters weren’t actively out copwatching. It appears they were approached while out walking their dog, and the cop showed up unexpectedly to serve papers on someone in the house.

    • Frank Morris

      They’re youngsters who likely never experienced this situation before. They did very well, all things considered. I’ve watched lots & lots of vids where the cop threatens arrest and much older people turn the phone off. You should cut back your harsh criticism. If you have videos where you do better, please direct me to them. A$$hole.

      • jeffy1951

        I agree Frank – those were just kids who showed plenty of ‘juice’ just by challenging the old bully in the first place. As they get older they will get better just like us! lol Kudos to you kids!

  • G

    Once again, it proves that many cops don’t know about the laws, don’t care about the law, nor show any kind of initiative to keep up on the law. At least, many prisoners in the jails and prisons tried to keep up on the law considering the fact that some of them were truly innocence and are facing the death penalty.

    • rust

      Salient point: they don’t care what the law is, they ignore any law that applies to them. Most Enforcers are scofflaws.

      • G

        I agreed with you but you have cops like Joseph Rossler who comes onto this website, saying that he knows about the laws that he has swore to uphold; however, at the same time, he saying that it is impossible for the cops (even himself) to keep up on the law and yet guy/gals like him hate it when the ordinary citizens start reciting what the police an or can not do according to the law. He likes to have it both ways.

  • rust

    Enforcer with Contempt of Citizen: no action taken by any entity. Citizen with Contempt of Cop: beaten, tazed, pets executed, property stolen, life taken.

    Any questions?

  • ARtP

    Intimidation is a class 3 felony!

    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=072000050HArt.+12%2C+Subdiv.+15&ActID=1876&ChapterID=53&SeqStart=24900000&SeqEnd=26500000

    Sec. 12-6. Intimidation.

    (a) A person commits intimidation when, with intent to cause another to
    perform or to omit the performance of any act, he or she communicates to
    another, directly or indirectly by any means, a
    threat to perform without lawful authority any of the following acts:

    (1) Inflict physical harm on the person threatened or any other person or on property; or
    (2) Subject any person to physical confinement or restraint; or
    (3) Commit a felony or Class A misdemeanor; or
    (4) Accuse any person of an offense; or
    (5) Expose any person to hatred, contempt or ridicule; or
    (6) Take action as a public official against anyone or anything, or withhold official action, or cause such action or withholding; or
    (7) Bring about or continue a strike, boycott or other collective action.
    (b) Sentence.
    Intimidation is a Class 3 felony for which an offender may be sentenced to
    a term of imprisonment of not less than 2 years and not more than 10 years.

    • rust

      All of the above. As I have said before, these laws don’t apply to Enforcers. They only apply to citizens. Enforcers are above such laws.

      • Ron de Vue

        There we go with that special class of citizenship again.

        • MrDamage

          It’s almost like states are issuing titles of nobility in the form of LEO credentials…

    • stk33

      Interesting: so it’s a crime to

      threat to accuse any person of an offense without lawful authority

      threat to expose any person to hatred, contempt or ridicule without lawful authority

      Looks like a wonderland for the prosecutors.

  • ARtP

    Please, please, please file an official complaint and contact the DA’s office. Nothing will come of it but a paper trail needs to be made.

    • JCFROMNJ

      I’m King of The Paper Trails, and I couldn’t agree more. I document EVERYTHING, even the most trivial incident, and Compare EVERYTHING for a connection of some sort. Just got a major break on something I’m doing for a third party by connecting what SEEMED to be unrelated facts. Back it ALL up in various format’s at different locations,makes you bullet proof.

  • JW

    “…the deputy started spouting out lies.”

    Standard procedures were followed.

    • Macross

      Of course, because cops can legally lie to you.
      If you get caught up in a lie top a cop however.. boy you’re in trouble!

      • matism

        Ah, and cops can lie to OTHER cops as well. Just like that FBI pig did in Orlando where he claimed he only shot the guy to death after the guy attacked him with a knife. And that’s the story the FBI went with right after the shooting. And the Media lapped it up because, after all, it WAS from the FBI!

        And then a few weeks later the FedPigs walked that story back and said they would have to investigate further. But now the Orlando DA has sucked their dicks as usual and decided to NOT prosecute that murdering FedPig swill.

  • StreyDawg

    How do these cops not realize the anger they are provoking. How do they not understand that they are bouncing their ass up and down on a suitcase that is starting to overflow with rage and will explode and destroy them?

    Oh, and ecls, fuck you and your idiotic babbling about legal processes. There is nothing respectable about being a cop or a collaborator in the modern legal system. I have more respect for the brown stain on the bottom of a public toilet than I do for anyone who ever pinned on a badge.

    I’m done.

    • Eric

      That’s what they want. They want more people that complain, protest, or fight back. They want to justify all of the military equipment and funding that they’re begging for.

    • stk33

      They certainly realize it all right, but from their perspective, the guy who shows disrespect to LE is “bad guy”, which makes cop’s moral duty to put him away using the law as a tool, the more creatively, the better.

      It’s the trend of today that enforcing the law becomes just a ritual in order to achieve stated political goal, supposedly good for the society. “Lawfare” is the term – first you identity the enemy, then shoot the lawfare at him. For example:
      ========
      http://www.dailybell.com/editorials/35306/Wendy-McElroy-First-They-Came-For-The-Porn-Stars/

      The DOJ is targeting banks and payment companies, such as PayPal, with a tsunami of subpoenas and other expensive legal demands. The demands go away if the institutions refuse to do business with people whose activities are deemed “objectionable” although they are legal.
      ========

      This cop is doing pretty much the same, within his small scale of authority: replace subpoenas for threats to arrest and selling porn for filming the cop, and you have the same scenario.

  • http://www.policemisconduct.net Film The Police Always

    Anyone hear about the cop shot in the face in Killeen Texas. YAY! LOL, videos like this make me celebrate. YAY!

    • TX

      No-knock raids are idiotic and often end with innocent and unarmed citizens MURDERED.
      Should be knock, announce who you are at least twice quite loudly before entering, and every cop that passes through the doorway once again says Police! Of course, every raid member should be wearing a camera to assure accountability on both sides.

      • matism

        Do you not yet understand that NON-PIGS are dressing up in SWAT-like attire and yelling “POLICE!” before they smash their way into their intended victims’ homes???

        • JW

          “Do you not yet understand that NON-PIGS are dressing up in SWAT-like attire and yelling “POLICE!” before they smash their way into their intended victims’ homes??? ”

          Yeah? So? What does that have to do with anything?

          • matism

            It has to do with the VALUE of your GD pigs yelling “POLICE!” before they smash their way into a home. ESPECIALLY when they are in costume.

          • JW

            Someone else imitating the police has exactly zero impact on the legal activities of the police. If I drive a Taurus or a Charger, should people pull over for me?

            Of course, the police won’t announce themselves and will only lie about it later, so even we assume there is an effect, it’s moot.

  • Dusty Miller

    Amateur cop, they’re a dime a dozen.

  • Ron

    This guy has been a cop for 28 years and is still an asshole no nothing cop?

    • n4zhg

      Not all cops have the intelligence and drive to become lawyers. In fact, the departments make every attempt to remove such from consideration.

  • Ron

    So they can record us but we can’t record them? The cop had a big camera pinned to his chest.

  • dravo1

    The officer had a camera ??? Time to file an FOI request and get a copy of his footage. Local news media will like a copy as well.

    • Chum Lee Jr

      “There was a “malfunction” and video footage from that unit cannot be retrieved”

      Just saving you the time of asking, and them making up an answer.

      Unless the cop is correct – there will ALWAYS be a “malfunction”

  • dickgosinya48

    Why can’t people from Illinois speak properly? The cop sounds like he has a mouth full of marbles.

    • Tijuana Joe

      This wasn’t the standard “Hackey” accent you get from Chicago…I think this cop has Down’s Syndrome or something.

      • dickgosinya48

        He reminds me of that moron mayor of Boston Tom Menino(sp?). Another retard that seems to have chromosomal problems.

  • Lee

    Why plead with the cop to not arrest you? Simply inform the dickhole that exercising your rights is not a crime. If he persists, then you get to sue him and his department.

    • db42857

      I understand your point…but Im sure the fear of being placed in holding at Cook County jail might have influenced his actions.

      • Lee

        If that’s the case, then the wrong person is in fear. It’s going to take We The People to turn that around. Cops really need to be fearful of doing anything wrong at all.

  • Necron 99

    This cop needs more training, he didn’t shoot the dogs per current SOP.

  • Difdi

    Did anyone else notice how the cop apparently claimed to be a judge and proceeded to issue a ‘court order’?

  • Malcolm Reynolds

    “I’ve been an officer for 23 years, and these intimidation tactics usually work. But since they’re not working now, I’m going to threaten to arrest you under that statute of “you’re being an asshole”. Don’t tell me about the law, I know the laws here in the U.S. even though I couldn’t be bothered to even learn ENGLISH.” Get the fuck out of here you sub-human illiterate POS….

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