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Florida Man Records Himself Getting Attacked by Cop for not Rolling Down Window all the way

A horrifying video has emerged showing St. Petersburg police forcing a man out of his car before pouncing on him, leaving him hospitalized with several injuries, all because the cop claimed he was in fear for his life.

At least that what he says in his report, where he wrote the following:

I exited my marked patrol cruiser and walked towards the vehicle and I noticed the driver staring at me with a blank stare as he continued revving the engine louder and louder. I thought by his actions the subject was going to attempt to hit me with his car.

The video, however, shows it was Curtis Shannon, a young man from Florida who was probably fearing for his life during the arrest.

It also shows that he remained professional as he tried to hand the cop his license and registration through a small opening after the cop pulled him over for what he claimed was erratic driving.

But if anything was erratic, it the was behavior of the cop, whom unfortunately, Shannon refuses to identify out of what he says is “respect.”

But the cop deserves no respect because he was downright criminal. A thug with a badge. A proud member of the Blue Mafia.

Out of respect for the officers (why I still have any is mystery) I omitted their names from the report.

However, you can call the St. Petersburg Media Relations Department at 727-893-7550 and ask for the cop’s name. Then you can follow it up with a public records request for his internal affairs summary, which I’m betting is not empty. The department explains how this can be done here.

But they probably won’t abide by the law to provide the records on this cop, so if need guidance, so perhaps Charlie Grapski, Director of the PINAC Open Records Project, can offer guidance. Email him at charliegrapski@pinac.org.

Post your experiences in the comments section please as the video will infuriate you.

The window was just over a quarter of the way down and it was December. Even in Florida, the nights get pretty cold. So I asked him, “Why did you pull me over, officer?”. A seemingly innocent question, right?

Wrong! He responded with “Because I wanted to, now step out of the vehicle!”. WHAT? This can’t be happening! I have no criminal record, my registration is current (not that he would know any of that, he refused to take my papers), and I definitely don’t have a busted tail light. So I responded ” ‘Because I want to’ isn’t a legal reason to pull someone over, let alone ask them out of a car. Can you tell me why you pulled me over?”

“This isn’t up for debate, step out of the car.” Now, he’s being very hostile, I’m still sitting there wondering why. He won’t take my papers, he wants me out of the car, and he won’t take my papers. What’s the deal?

“Sir, I don’t feel comfortable getting out of the car when I don’t even know why you’re here. Why do you need me to step out of the car? I’m not a criminal and my papers are all legal.”

“You know what? One way or another, I’m getting you out of the car. What’s the name of this complex?”

In the video, Shannon continues to defy his orders to step out, which was within his complete right to do so.

“I will not step out of this car so you can beat the hell out of me,” Shannon says at one point.

But eventually he did step out. And the cop did beat the hell out of him. And luckily, the video did survive.

The incident took place in December but Shannon just posted it online Sunday after launching a Go Fund Me campaign to raise money to “help my family recover.”

Perhaps the phone had been confiscated and he just got the phone back but that is not mentioned in his report. Perhaps police were unable to access it due to a passcode and finally just gave it back.

At this time, he has raised $60 out of a projected $5,000.

The story was first reported by South Florida Cop Block. I reposted most of his story  below but click here for the entire story and to donate.

On December 26th 2013 at 9:30pm, I was driving home from work. I purchaced a pizza pie from a local pizzaria so my wife wouldn’t have to cook. She was still adjusting to the mother’s life, our only son was only 5 months old at the time. Just before I got home, a police cruiser pulled behind my car and was following me very closely. We both stopped at a red light. When it turned green, and just after I started making the last turn before I got home, lights started flashing. Being less than a half, block from home, I put my hazard lights on and slowly drove to, and backed into, my parking space. I then turned off my car, and headlights, turned on the interior lights and waited to see what the issue was.

The officer didn’t approach my car immediately (remember, I backed into my spot. His car was now in front of mine and mine was off). Instead, he called for me to get my license and registration. This struck me as odd, even if I did have my information ready, how would he get it from way over there? I told him it would be a little bit, I hadn’t needed my registration papers since I bought the car and now it was buried under many miscelaneous papers. This is when he approached my car. He asked me again for my papers, and again I told him I was looking for them. When I found them, I offered it to him, but he woudn’t take them. Instead, he asked me to roll my window all the way down. This, again, was a weird and unecessary request. The window was just over a quarter of the way down and it was December. Even in Florida, the nights get pretty cold. So I asked him, “Why did you pull me over, officer?”. A seemingly innocent question, right?

Wrong! He responded with “Because I wanted to, now step out of the vehicle!”. WHAT? This can’t be happening! I have no criminal record, my registration is current (not that he would know any of that, he refused to take my papers), and I definitely don’t have a busted tail light. So I responded ” ‘Because I want to’ isn’t a legal reason to pull someone over, let alone ask them out of a car. Can you tell me why you pulled me over?”

“This isn’t up for debate, step out of the car.” Now, he’s being very hostile, I’m still sitting there wondering why. He won’t take my papers, he wants me out of the car, and he won’t take my papers. What’s the deal?

“Sir, I don’t feel comfortable getting out of the car when I don’t even know why you’re here. Why do you need me to step out of the car? I’m not a criminal and my papers are all legal.”

“You know what? One way or another, I’m getting you out of the car. What’s the name of this complex?”

I told him and he walked around to the back of my car to check my license plates and call for back-up. Now, I’m worried, fearful, and annoyed. It was cear to me that this officer was looking for some action, and he wasn’t leaving without it. Being from a place where racial profiling is the norm and police brutality goes by unpunished, New York City, I took the few seconds I grabbed and set up my cell phone to record the rest of the situation. I’ll let the video tell the next few bits of the story. I apologize in advance for your coming neck pain.

As you can see and hear, while I tried to remain as calm, courteous, and respectful as the situation would allow, the officer only grew more and more hostile as the the encounter progressed. So much so, that I requested he physically changed places with another officer who didn’t look like he wanted to slam my head into the ground. I even tried revealing that I was a military veteran, hopefully that would calm him down a bit, we’re on the same side. That cleary wasn’t heppening, but you do hear another officer assure me that no physical harm would come to me. I took his word for it (silly me), grabbed my phone (now a camcorder) so I could continue recording from outside the car and openned the car door.

As you can hear, the aggressive officer immidiately grabbed me by the collar and tried to yank me out of the car. I asked him to let me go, I was already cooperating and that hostility was the reason I didn’t want to get out of the car in the first place. Even so, I let go of the frame of my car and accepted my fate. I was getting beat up tonight, there’s no denying that. The officer then slammed me onto the ground, making sure that my head made full contact with the curb on the way down.

He got on top of me and demanded I give him my arm (so he could handcuff me). I couldn’t. He was intentionally pinning that arm to the ground with his knee and he knew it. For almost two minutes, he would elbow me in the back of the head (elbows don’t leave bruises or bumps as easily), knee me in the ribs and kept yelling for me to give him my arm. Then it started to make sense. As the stars flashed behind my eyelids after every strike, I realized that we are between two parked cars. No one can see us. As far as anyone else can tell, I’m fighting this officer on the ground. So I just laid there and shouted as loud as I could , “YOU’RE PINNING MY ARM TO THE GROUND!! QUIT PUNCHING ME!!” He stops and you can start to hear the mumbles and murmurs of the neighbors as they start to discuss what’s happening. The officer realized that playtime is over and cuffs me. When he gets me off the ground, I could see the mischevous grins on two of the officers’ faces. The third one, the one who said I would’nt be harmed, just stood there almost in disbelief. Maybe he was new, I don’t know.

I spent the night in jail and the next day at the Veterans Hospital getting treated for the scraped and bruises from the incident, and the rash I got from the clothes I was issued.

Curtis Shannon

About Carlos Miller

Carlos Miller is founder and publisher of Photography is Not a Crime, which began as a one-man blog in 2007 to document his trial after he was arrested for photographing police during a journalistic assignment. He is also the author of The Citizen Journalist's Photography Handbook, which can be purchased through Amazon.
  • John H Johnson III

    Wow, he should of never gotten out of the car in the first place but it doesn’t excuse this monster for police brutality. I hope he sues them personally and the department.

    • Blayne Wyatt

      Photography is not a crime … No but refusing to cooperate when told to exit a vehicle by a law enforcement officer IS.

      • rahlquist

        Not all crimes are criminal in nature. To earn the respect that should be required of law enforcement personnel they must act respectful. The officer had no need to behave the way he did. There is a difference between controlling a situation and subjugating a person. The situation was under control. If the officer was afraid of flight or being run down he could simply ask the man to kill the engine and/or provide the keys. In this case his forcing the issue of the subject exiting the car was about showing him who was boss. That type of behavior is not the way a cop should act. Unfortunately when teaching officers to control a situation they don’t teach them the difference between control and domination and some think domination is the right way.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          “The officer had no need to behave the way he did. ” I’m very confident the guy in the car was a douche, like you said, respect the officer and they will respect you.

          • Difdi

            If being a douche made assault and/or battery okay, then there are an awful lot of wrongfully convicted people in prison.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            I never said that being a douche made assault ok. Don’t assume what I’m saying and ask me what I mean.

          • John Rogers

            Blayne, I’m not gonna lie, I’d like to drop-kick you in the face and watch you drop.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            And I would love to see you try.

          • CheetahWhizerd

            Get within 10 feet of me with your ignorance, and it’s a done-deal.*wink*

          • Ernest

            there are 4 kinds of cops and Blayne, if he is one, is the kind thats gonna earn the dept a law suit , get him fired, or get him killed!

          • Blayne Wyatt

            not a cop.

          • ninammam

            You might see someone try, I will wager.

          • B00000000

            Some folk just don’t understand what the Constitution is all about!

          • Les

            WOW MAN YOU MUST BE ONE OF THOSE FILTHY PIGS TO…WHY DO YOU WANT TO DROP KICK SOMEONE…I CAN BET YOU ARE NOT THAT TOUGH ONLY ON THIS PC WHERE YOU CAN SAY ALL THIS NASTY SHIT AND NOBODY CAN KICK YOUR STINKING ASS

          • Justsomeguy151

            STFU, traitorous fagot!!

          • ninammam

            Pffffft. hey Les… I’d like to sucker punch you to and you would be surprised I am a diehard when it comes to injustice, I Assure you, ask anyone I know!

          • William Burke

            You must be one of those ass munchers who never asked where the caps locks is.

          • ninammam

            I’d love to give him a Sucker punch him.

          • CheetahWhizerd

            We know what you mean.
            You are an ignorant brainwashed and submissive sheep.
            But it’s ok.. a lot of it isn’t your fault…

          • mike

            No, Blayne, that’s exactly what your post asserts. If you don’t mean what you write, that’s fine, but don’t whimper when you are called out about it. It just makes you look thin-skinned and muddled about what you actually believe.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            No buddy, that is what you asserted on my comment. Your assumption is not a “call out,” next time try and learn what I’m saying and not ASSume.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Im glad you are defending a money whore. Did you know the driver set up a website asking for donations to “help my family recover.” http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/26378289/video-of-confrontation-with-st-petersburg-police-officer-goes-viral

          • James Michael

            Well he was attacked without cause by a criminal thug and now is forced at threat of death or a cage onto the BARS extortion system …He would need help, mired in that cesspool, lmao Are you goofy?

          • Ernest

            Take a deep breath

          • Blayne Wyatt

            support a money grubbing whore.

          • ninammam

            I’d like to knock the wind out of him!!!!

          • ninammam

            I would hope so, with a new infant baby and a wife and bills, I am sure he missed work due to his injuries and there is NOTHING wrong with asking for Help and he WILL need an attorney so he can file a lawsuit!!! Ewww you are such an asshole Wyatt!!!

          • William Burke

            Yeah, I did. I read it in the article.

          • Jonathan C. Mitchell

            But it’s okay for you to assume the citizen was a douche?

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Nope, I’m mostly doing that to point out the same exact flaw that others think the cop was the douche. I’m just being objective, if you assume the cop was wrong then I will ask you how do you know that in a round about way.

          • ninammam

            I think they let Wyatt out of the institution for a few hrs.

          • ninammam

            WTF did you say??! you are unintelligible!!!!

          • The_WTF_Kid

            So, you’re saying…being that he knew he was about to be accosted and possibly beaten by the officer (which is why he refused to get out of the car)…he should have just got out of the car to make the impending abuse…less.

          • John Rogers

            Blayne’s just a pussy that’s all.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            because you know so much about me. dildo.

          • Chris Sky

            we know EVERYTHING we need to know about you, just how you have reacted to this situation and defended the oppressor/abuser and condemned the citizen, for not being “Submissive” enough to illegal actions.

            you’re a classic sheep. order taker, unable to think… unable to act.. the most pathetic type of person in the world, actually. the classic example of a “useless eater” (probably with an EBT card too!)

          • ninammam

            He just thinks they will go easy on him when it comes his turn!

          • Ernest

            Trouble maker

          • ninammam

            a nut job!

          • Blayne Wyatt

            What I am saying is that he never should have acted like a dick to begin with. I have been pulled over maybe 5 times in 12 years of driving for minor traffic violations. Not once was I a dick and Not once was I taken out of my car and beaten. How about yourself? Now when an officer asks you out of a car for “obstructing justice” regardless of if he is right or you are right (that is for the lawyers to decide, not you, not the drive, note the cop), you get out of the car, because not getting out of the car is a crime. Now if the cop was in the wrong, then a decent lawyer will sue the cop and guess what, when you walk out of jail you get a fucking check. Easy Money.

          • Gregor

            The refusal to get out of the car, in this case, was NOT a crime. It was an unlawful order. In Florida, you are not required to hand an officer anything. You merely have to “display” it. So the claim of obstruction was a lie. In some instances, you’re not even required to sign a ticket… you can ask for it to be placed under the wiper, if you do not wish to roll down your window. And as we all know, hopefully, you are never , ever required to talk to a cop for any reason.

          • steveo

            843.02 is the obstruction statute in FL and we’ve gone over this so much that if you search 843.02 or obstruction or resisting you’ll get enough to read for the next year. This is a misdemeanor and argued in county court. The county judges are going to side with the leo 98% of the time unless you have a really great case. This is a slam dunk guilty for the SA.

            In order for the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this gentleman is guilty of 843.02, 1) the leo has to be in a lawful execution of a legal duty (which he was) 2) the defendant obstructed or resisted the legal execution of the legal duty (which he did). You have to get out of the car Pennsylvania vs. Mimms, if they tell you to but you don’t have to talk to them and you don’t have to agree to any searches, so what good is it for them to get you out of the car. They can call the drug dog or say they smelled raw cannabis, but just some more waste of time.

            In Fl, the legislature changed the law that made it obstruction if you don’t sign the ticket. You only have to sign the ticket if it’s a mandatory court appearance which is usually a criminal complaint like reckless driving or 30 or more miles over the limit. It’s usually better and quicker just to have the docs ready when he comes up to the car, keep your hands in sight. When he tells you why he stopped you, ask if you’re free to leave.

            After you’ve asked him if you’re free to leave, he has to finish his initial investigation or give you back your docs and let you go. He’ll usually say, “I’ll be right back with you.” He’ll go to his cruiser, do all the DAVID stuff, write up the warning or citations and come back and give it to you. When he hands you back your docs, ask if you’re free to leave again, if he says yes, roll up your window, make sure he steps out of the way and leave. Don’t fall for the, yes, you’re free to leave, but let me ask you a couple more questions, could you step back here with me, Now, you don’t have to exit the car, because he told you you were free to leave, but ask again, and then leave.

          • Gregor

            He asked the guy to step out because of obstruction. There was no obstruction. In Florida you do not have to hand papers to a cop. You have to display them, and “display” was not defined in the chapter as handing them over. So, the cop lied. The guy had no legal obligation to comply for the stated reason.

          • steveo

            Nope, bad advice and he was obstructing by not exiting the vehicle. Your legal argument isn’t going to go anywhere.

            But in a sense, you don’t actually have to have the license or registration with you as long as they are valid,(there are 2 million people in FL with suspended licenses[we have more people with suspended licenses than the populations of Vermont, New Hampshire and Montana}) but you do have to have proof of insurance. The proof of insurance could be a pdf on your smartphone. If you know your DL #, you give that to the leo, if not name, DOB, address and he can look you up on his computer. Then he’ll write you up two tickets for not having the DL and reg with you, which you take down to the County clerks office, show them your DL and reg and they’ll dismiss the tickets and charge you 10 bucks for each ticket.

            But doing that would probably require rolling down the window to talk to the leo.

          • Chris Sky

            “he was obstructing by not exiting the vehicle”

            by your “logic” a citizen would be “obstructing” if an officer (illegally) asked them to produce ID while walking down the street. Just because a cop asks you to do something. Doesn’t mean you’re obligated to do it… and if they bark an UNLAWFUL ORDER (like getting out of your car when no crime/suspicion of crime/threat to officer safety is present) you’re not OBSTRUCTING by disobeying ILLEGAL orders. You’re obstructing if you disobey LEGAL orders. Learn the difference. and stop being a classic sheep, ready to lick the boots of your oppressors before they even ask.

            oh… and he clearly had the window rolled down more than enough to converse clearly, concisely and safely with the officer, as well as plenty of room to physically hand him his documentation, which is ALL he is REQUIRED by LAW to do in that situation.

          • steveo

            A leo asking for ID on the street without a RAS is different than this situation. 1) the leo stopped him for an expired tag 2) the law in FL says that the leo can take the driver to jail and tow the car for that if he wants to 3) he told him to step out of the car because he was going to put him in cuffs which was a lawful execution of a legal duty 4) the driver refused to exit the vehicle which further resisted the leos lawful execution of a legal duty. This is a slam dunk conviction for 843.02.

            also, like the others, watch Billy Murphy, if you don’t believe me on the 10 rules for dealing with police on youtube.

          • Roland Smoak

            Where did it say his tags were expired? He said his registration was good. . Didn’t see anything about expire tags. Where I live tags and registration is the same thing

          • FreemanAmerica

            They always do this…The folks who support LEO no matter what…They start making up crimes…Now the guy had bad plates.. or Obstruction..This is their MO…make up stuff to support our suppression..Cop kills someone, or beats someone the guy must have deserved it..Stooges one and all..

          • James Michael

            No the leo stopped him because he wanted to….that was stated….

          • Ernest

            The set of events never made the driver believe he was under arrest or that he was obligated under law to do so or he would go to jail.

          • Peacefulstreets Lewiscounty

            United States v. Mendenhall, 446 U.S. 544, 554 (1980) (opinion of Justice Stewart) (“[A] person has been ‘seized’ within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment only if, in view of all the circumstances surrounding the incident, a reasonable person would have believed that he was not free to leave”).

          • James Michael

            Without a criminal act that the officer had the authority to actually act upon, there is no obstructing…. You are incorrect…

          • Justsomeguy151

            Wrong.

            “An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

          • B000000

            So BUTT HEAD. Florida has a different Constitution than the rest of the country.

          • jonquimbly

            Every U.S. state has a different constitution than the rest of the country. You could upgrade your legal knowledge by looking beyond the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th U.S. amendments. Generally, the tenth amendment and article 4 give states the latitude to adopt their own _state_ constitution and system of law.

          • Me Mee

            Every U.S. State has a different Constitution than the rest of the Country? LMMFAO. You do know that every U.S. State is within the same Country, right…LOL. So hoe can each Individual State have the own Constitution if they are ALL within the U.S.A. that has only ONE??? Constitution that is…JACKHOLE!

          • nunya

            Wrong , there is the U.S. constitution , and there are state constitutions also , soo laugh it up MeMee , the jokes on you .

          • FreemanAmerica

            Wrong young man…time to study…every states has it’s own Constitution, it just cannot violate the US Constitution which is supreme to the state ones..But they all have them..Look it up..Type in Florida Constitution or Arizona, any state you wish..

          • James Michael

            As long as it coincides with the federal constitution and the rights preserved therein are the same…

          • jonquimbly

            Yes, each state “inherits” federal law. States cannot nullify federal laws.

          • Tim

            Go read a book. Better yet, Google THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE
            Article. VI. Then educate yourself.

          • James Michael

            And alot of theirs is completely unconstitutional also….

          • James Michael

            Stopping someone because you want to is not part of a legal duty …..pal..Get a clue…

          • Blayne Wyatt

            You have to exit the vehicle if they tell you to, but at that point you are under arrest according to the ACLU and always demand representation of an attorney and remain silent and ask if you are free to leave. Lock the car, don’t agree to any searches of the vehicle or your person. Stand there like a post and hold your shorts or pants on the outside of the leg, so they can’t say you were threatening them or going for a weapon. Ask any officer or any lawyer.

          • Gregor

            You do NOT have to exit your vehicle unless a cop has a specific articulable basis to suspect additional criminal activity.

          • steveo

            Nope, in FL, he can take you to jail for the expired plate, if he wants to. He can’t search your car without a warrant, consent or dog sniff. But he can do an inventory search, but he can’t search inside of suitcases, zipped purses or smartphones.

          • B0000000

            Ah here is another rocket scientist that knows what the constitution says. He has probably never read the document.

          • steveo

            This is how it goes in reality:

            Sir, would you mind rolling down the window,
            I’d rather not.
            Sir, I really need you to roll down the window.
            No. I can hear you fine,
            Ok, then step out of the car.
            I’d rather not.
            Ok, then, you’re under arrest. Step out of the car.
            What am I under arrest for?
            They’ll tell you at booking. You want to get out of the car, now……
            Tell you what, I’m not such a bad guy and my shift is almost over, so
            let’s start over.

            Sir, would you mind rolling down the window?
            Sound of window going down.
            Thank you for your consent to roll down the window.

          • Me Mee

            WRONG the Police Officer would have then asked for LICENSE and REGISTRATION, JACKHOLE. Ain’t no one ever been asked to step out of their car and then the Cop says “OKAY you are under arrest” STFFFFFU!

          • Me Mee

            SHUT UP (B 7 zeros) you are an IDIOT. Up above in another post you stated that for every U.S. State each one (each state) has their “own” Constitution….DUMBASS!!

          • nunya

            Each state does , you’re in a hole , you should stop digging .

          • Jacob Nyhart

            Yeah, each state DOES have its own constitution – separate from the ConUS.
            This is the United States of America – each state governs itself while centralizing SOME (note, not all) powers for interstate continuity. Those power are ratified in the U.S. Constitution. Any power not specifically relegated to the federal government through the ConUS is remanded to the states and people (10th amendment to the Bill of Rights). The Supremacy clause of the ConUS (Art 6, Clause 2) is the arbiter for any differences between state laws and constitutions and the federal laws and Constitution.
            http://www.usconstitution.net/stateconst.html

          • FreemanAmerica

            You are still spouting that expired tag lie?

          • James Michael

            Bullcrap, a plate is not an arrestable offense….it has no standing in a court of law…Missing both elements of standing…

          • Justsomeguy151

            Wrong. No victim, no crime, so no jail.

            “Traffic infractions are not a crime.”
            People v. Battle, 50 Cal. App. 3,step 1, 123 Cal.Rptr. 636,639.

            “Speeding, driving without a license, wrong plates or no plates, no
            registration, no tags, etc., have been held to be “non-arrestable
            offenses” (Cal V. Farley, 98 Cal. Rep. 89, 20 CA 3d 1032.

            “No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it”.
            Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105

          • Blayne Wyatt

            watch the video and pay attention. internet lawyer.

          • CheetahWhizerd

            Not if it’s an unlawful order.
            Which this was.
            “Because I felt like it” is not reasonable suspicion OR probable cause… therefore, from that point on, EVERYTHING was unlawful by that officer.

          • James Michael

            I do not HAVE to obey anyone that has not proven their authority to act against me …Are you a good trained slave or what…We have no King in America pal…Try again…

          • leroy edwards

            not true…you are misinformed

          • Blayne Wyatt

            maybe.

          • CheetahWhizerd

            The reason you weren’t taken out of the car is because they knew you were no threat to anyone but yourself and all the other sheep.
            They WANT you out there condoning unlawful orders like a little brainwashed coward.
            That’s why.
            I guess you don’t realize that by doing so, you put yourself, your family, and anyone else that comes into contact with these P’sOS in danger.
            Apparently you think you, and they, deserve it.
            To each their own.

          • Ernest

            You should go to you tube and watch videos on a million people who is asserting their rights after so much police brutality. Maybe, just maybe then you might see why people dont wanna roll down their windows. Its within their rights unless he is being detained.

          • R_Bug

            OK, Officer Blayne. Stating your rights to a cop is not douchey. It’s our American duty to know our rights and to inform those who violate them WHILE THEY ARE VIOLATING THEM. Get your head out of your ass.
            If you’re one of those pussies who let cops violate your rights and suggest that everyone else do the same, then YOU are a part of THE PROBLEM. Show some dignity for once in your life.

          • Dan Hetrick

            Are you white? That might explain your prior experiences.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            No I’m a decent human.

          • James Michael

            That is exactly what he is saying …Be a good little obedient monkey and obeys massa likes a good boys…lmao

          • kraz

            I’m very confident the guy in the car was not a douche. He wound the window down and tried to give his documents to the cop. The cop, being douchey and feeling dissed, turned the situation into something it never had to be.

          • Me Mee

            Really?? He tried to give the cop the papers? Get some damn glasses fool and some new ears fer hearing! He purposely held the papers AWAY from the window so the police officer could not obtain them also refusing to further roll the window down to hand them or allow them to be retrieved’ (ooo.. don’t hand over you id or registration..it a conspiracy!! the cops are out to get you) He knew what he was gonna do, how he was gonna “act/react” to whatever this “cop” was going to ask of him, BEFORE he even pulled into a parking space at his apt. complex!!! He knew he was gonna “show the man/pigs/cops” he wasn’t gonna take their “abuse”…Gimme me a F***CKING break #CHIPONSHOULDERLOSER

          • Shawn

            We have an apologist here.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            nope an objective observer.

          • James Michael

            More like a boot licker….

          • Navy Mom

            I don’t think he was a douche at all. I think that it’s sad that, not just men of color, but anyone should have to worry about having to record the officer that pulls you over for a minor violation. I do believe he had every right to do so and shouldn’t be judged because of it. I would want my son to do the same thing and he’s a Navy Corpman which with that officer, didn’t seem to make a bit of difference! I thought that Lawmen and Veteran’s had mutual respect for one another…hmm, not in this case huh!!

          • Me Mee

            I have NO need to record an Officer IF pulled over when I know I did nothing WRONG!

          • James Michael

            You are an idiot especially if you have done nothing wrong you do not want to talk to these liars and perverters of the truth…Here let a law professor and 20+ year cop tell you why…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

          • John Rogers

            If that’s the case then why does everyone here want to brutalize you even though you haven’t attacked any of us personally?

          • Blayne Wyatt

            because you’re a dildo that can’t take conflicting view points / criticism?

          • B00000

            If it were in the bill of rights you would have a leg to stand on. It is no where to be found in my copy! Maybe you should go sit down and quite embarrassing your self!

          • Me Mee

            yourself is ONE word ;)

          • Chris Sky

            “conflicting view points” are fine when you’re talking about whether you enjoy mcdonalds over burger king… When you’re talking about a SPECIFIC LAW there is only 1 right answer. and on that … you’re 100% incorrect. The cops need a REASON to force you out of the car. They can’t simply ask you, then if you say no, say “you’re under arrest now get out”. They need suspicion of a crime, or a valid threat to their safety. a window not rolled down all the way does not meet this criteria.. so as much as you “love” your view point… it’s not an opinion related matter.

          • steveo

            Nope, Billy Murphy, long time defense attorney and judge who starred in “the Wire’, says you are wrong.

          • Gregor

            I cannot find the Florida statute requiring a citizen give respect to a law enforcement officer.
            This “cop” hopefully will run up on that wrong person one day, soon. I’d like to see that video.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            that’s because there is no law requiring anyone to respect anyone. What’s your point?

          • Gregor

            My point is simply this. You do not have to show respect for a LEO. If a LEO wants respect they need to give it. If they commit a crime against a citizen because of what I call contempt of cop, then they deserve whatever they get from the citizen they will eventually encounter who puts something on them that Ajax will not wash off. And I’ll laugh while I’m viewing the video, or while reading the story about his “End of Watch”.

          • B00000

            You would not understand. I am guessing your one of those obot libtards. Know it all, with a 8 th grade education.

          • CheetahWhizerd

            I know a lot of 8th graders that have way more humanity and common sense than this fool has.
            But yeah….

          • Blayne Wyatt

            I’m guessing you have never contributed anything of substance to any conversation ever.

          • steveo

            i had a cop stop me once in Venice Florida for turning right on red when it had a sign by the stop light, no right on red.

            I did it, but didn’t see the sign. He said, I was sitting in the other lane and kept saying to myself, don’t do it, don’t do it, and then you turned. I told him that I was sorry. He said, Ok, hold your hand out. I said what? He said hold your hand out, So I put my hand out the window and he slapped my wrist. He said, “Don’t do it again.” That was cool cop. Haven’t met many like him.

          • MichaelGreen831

            Too many times I’ve seen videos of cops shooting unarmed, non-aggressive humans as if life had no meaning, and there were no consequences. I’m done with the default that the cop is in the right. I see stuff like this, and I think of Rosa Parks and the bus. Was she a douche for standing against a stupid law? No! Neither was this guy a douche when he was peacefully resistant to unnecessary aggression.

            My starting position is the cop is a lying jack-booted-thug on a power trip. The days of “Officer Bill,” the nice policeman who came to my elementary school, are over. Cops today belong to a gang. They take protection money, they use threats of force, and they kill innocents.

            My biggest regret that I wasn’t paying attention 20 years ago when it was just African Americans suffering this aggression. Today it’s all of us. We’re now all walking in the same shoes, and our police are only satisfied by our complete and total surrender.

            We’re now all guilty.

            My advice? When you see a cop, cross the street (as nonchalantly as possible). If one tells you to do something, do it. You are his slave and you have no rights.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            7,000 deaths from the bullets of cops since 2001, there have been 7,000 deaths from civilians killing themselves this year alone. yes there are consequences If you did some research you would easily find http://www.policemisconduct.net/2010-q2-npmsrp-national-police-misconduct-statistical-report/ That is not the default, only the lawyer and judge can tell you if an officer is right/wrong. Rosa Parks was in a different time when racism was ingrained in the society. Society has progressed a lot more than you are giving credit to.

          • MichaelGreen831

            Granted, there are aspects of our lives, from a societal level, that are better today than yesterday. 7000 deaths, and how many other types of civil rights violations? How many civil forfeitures?

            The gentlemen in this video wasn’t shot, he was, however, beaten. He doesn’t show up in your 7,000 number.

            The drug war has done far more harm that it was designed to prevent. The failed effort has ruined our cops and turned them into another gang. That they aren’t AS violent as other gangs doesn’t change the fact. I’ve lost all respect for “Officer Bill.” That one chooses to be nice to me tomorrow won’t change the fact that I know he has a gun and he believes he can kill me as easily as squishing a bug with the same consequences.

            There’s a minor amount of hope: Today there was a ruling against a Connecticut swat team that broke into a human’s house and shot a guest who was watching tv because some informant saw a small amount of coke. The cops found the coke. The court ruled that the police are not immune from prosecution for violating civil rights. All 7 of the thugs are going to pay. But, until that ruling, all 7 thought it was fair game. I’ll bet every one of them slept perfectly fine that night in 2008 after they removed one of the cockroaches from the land.

          • Croi Dhubh

            Nice lie on the statistics in regards to the amount of people who have killed themselves with a firearm.

            As if we needed more reason to ignore what you’re saying

          • Blayne Wyatt
          • Pigglet

            Ball sucking idiot you are.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Yoda?

          • nunya

            “respect the officer and they will respect you.” BULLSHIT !

          • Swampfox

            B.S. Respect is EARNED, not given.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            So doing one of the worst jobs while getting little monetary value from it is not respectful? Just watch the local news for an hour and think about how many officers had to visit, clean and inspect that scene you find so horrific.

          • Croi Dhubh

            Little monetary value from it? What shit hole are you thinking these cops work in? Hell, in the mountain town I was a cop in I made more than most people who visited from “big city”. Sure there were multimillion dollar houses people called “cabins”, but that’s not a fair comparison.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            The median annual wage for police and detectives was $56,980 in May 2012. http://www.bls.gov/ooh/protective-service/police-and-detectives.htm

          • TrollopeReader

            that’s a lot more than many people make. and they get generous medical and pensions.

            the police in my town earn $10-25,000 on details alone, let alone their normal salaries —they’re pulling in $80-140,000 a year…

          • Blayne Wyatt

            they make a lot more than a lot of people without an education, but not nearly enough for putting their life on the line. You can make shit pay, but your flipping a burger. I can elaborate this generalization, but it should suffice.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            What town is this? reference please.

          • TrollopeReader

            If you knew the definition of “median” you could answer your own question.

            For example, California officers in 2012, were (on average) $96,400.

            NY: $70,670. FL: $57,280 MI: $31,820 (all “mean”)

            Median US income, age 25+ (2005) about $43,000. (personal not household)

          • Blayne Wyatt

            America not just state by state.

          • Ernest

            Learn the people you work for s rights! I guess you missed that part of training.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Way to ASSume in another comment.

          • Justsomeguy151

            No, yr not. Yr just another POS pig who can’t stand that good men and women know their rights, traitor.

            “An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

          • ninammam

            WHAT are YOU talking about MORON!!!!The guy in the car did NOTHING and was more than Respectful!!!! You must be a Cop! Refusing to exit a vehicle is NOT a crime!!! The only CRIMINAL THUG was the pig in uniform with the badge and gun!!

          • droberg442

            The officer shall be sued and he should be personally arrested for attacking this person! THE OTHER COPS SHOULD TESTIFY AGAINST HIM AND GET THE UNLAWFUL SCUM OUT OF THE SERVICE! IF THEY DON’T FIX THIS TYRANNY THEY WILL ALL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!

          • Blayne Wyatt

            and that’s up to the judge and lawyers, not you or me.

          • droberg442

            sorry We The People find their JUSTICE SYSTEM? LACKING AND WHERE THERE IS NO JUSTICE THERE ARE NO LAWS!

        • eric

          exactly, no way i would have just let him beat me either, it would have been a great fight and if it went to the next level then so be it, but it would not have been me dying bet on it.

      • http://www.beyond.com/mobileinfantry Timothy McFarland

        No, you are wrong, the officer MUST describe the nature of the probable cause BY LAW. Have fun getting taken advantage of by police, and if you are a cop I hope you quit.

        • Pragmatic Liberaltarian

          Not sure where you get this. I don’t think it is correct.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          1. the cop pulled him over, that is probable cause. 2. he told the guy that he would be charged with
          Obstruction of justice.

          • Shawn

            You should look up probable cause because you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

          • steveo

            They don’t have to tell you shit, if they don’t want to. They do have to write the statute number on the citation. If they get the citation number wrong as long as they correct it before handing it in to the clerk, it’s still ok. What they give you is just toilet paper. And criminal charges by the leo mean nothing until the SA files the formal charges and you are arraigned.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            ok buddy.

          • leroy edwards

            pulling him over is probable cause?….no….there has to be probable cause to pull him over in the first case ……..you sound like a sheeple to me

          • B00000000

            A dumb a$$ sheeple at that!

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Did you know the driver set up a website asking for donations to “help my family recover.” He only wants money. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/26378289/video-of-confrontation-with-st-petersburg-police-officer-goes-viral BAAAAA BITCH

          • Croi Dhubh

            Actually, no…the cop only needs reasonable suspicion to pull over a car.

          • B00000

            I m guessing he will have no proof that a jury will believe.

          • steveo

            In Fl, if the SA isn’t seeking jail time, you don’t get a jury, just the judge on a misdemeanor. Somebody like this would get withheld adjudication (which means it’s not a conviction) and 6 mos probation and 50 hrs community service and a 250 fine. The only witness at the trial will be the leo and they’ll show the judge this video too. Good evidence for the state. I’d plea to the withheld, probation and community service. Also, whatever traffic tickets he wrote up. And don’t give the county judge any of that attitude or he’ll give you 60 days.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Did you know the driver set up a website asking for donations to “help my family recover.” He only wants money. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/26378289/video-of-confrontation-with-st-petersburg-police-officer-goes-viral

          • CheetahWhizerd

            Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! *points at you*
            You’re one of those particularly speshul little sheep aren’t you?
            Might want to check your Kool-Aid and that brown stuff on your nose and lips.

        • steveo

          A cop arrested me in FL for filming them on a public sidewalk, I didn’t know the charges for three hours. He just told me I was under arrest. They don’t have to tell you shit. You’ll find out what the charges are after they’ve booked you and look up the statutory bail amount. At the 1st Appearance, the judge took a while trying to decide if there was any probable cause, but he was just a rubber stamper. SA didn’t file any formal charges.

          • James Michael

            That is because he was making them up or trying to find one…proof he had nothing..I will not let any thug take me before he states his cause….Period….Won’t put up with their lies any longer…

          • Croi Dhubh

            Actually, they do. It’s one of the many “first things” they teach you in the police academy. It’s covered under the sixth amendment.

      • Pragmatic Liberaltarian

        What crime would that be Wyatt?

        • Blayne Wyatt

          re-watch the video buddy.

      • Kyle Davinski

        Actually…. Even citizens have a right to refuse to follow UNLAWFUL orders, such as asking a man to step out of a car when the situation clearly does not call for such measures. Are we all supposed to be complicit and obedient when it’s obvious nazi police want blood?

        • Blayne Wyatt

          What makes it unlawful orders?

          • Kyle Davinski

            besides the obvious intentions of a police officer determined to beat up an innocent citizen, I’d have to contend that being as the fella was in his car, and restricted movement secured, the officer had clear control of the subject and no justifiable reason to remove him from the vehicle.

          • Gregor

            It was an unlawful order because the guy was not committing obstruction. You do not have to hand any papers to a LEO in Florida. You simply have to display them.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            are you in a position to make that claim? Are you the lawyer working on this case? Are you the judge hearing the case?

          • Miss T

            Judges and Lawyers cannot alter the law. Probable cause is required to make the stop. Additional probable cause is then required to order a driver to exit the vehicle. Cops are not Gods and do not have authority to do whatever they want outside of the law.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Judges and Lawyers interpret the law and IF the cop was wrong they will determine that. IF the driver was wrong hey will determine that. NOT YOU, NOT ME, and NOT EVERYONE ELSE IN THESE COMMENTS. LEARN my argument before you assume what I am saying.

          • TrollopeReader

            You didn’t learn that in art school? I’m surprised.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            sorry my major didn’t concern law, what makes the orders unlawful, you are in internet lawyer, right?

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Nope, but I did learn how to add to a conversation. Guess fast food doesn’t teach you that.

          • TrollopeReader

            As if anyone should listen to law from the Hulk Hogan web-site-desginer. Oh, and I think most every commenter here is an “internet lawyer, yourself included,”

          • Blayne Wyatt

            I never claimed to be a lawyer, In fact I suggest that others actually seek out lawyers for advice. Are you jelly about my past employment?

      • John Rogers

        Blayne, being a total faggot is the biggest crime of, pussy.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          And you hide behind a computer

          • Shawn

            I’ll get snacks for “John Rogers vs. Blayne Wyatt: The In Person, Non-Internet Fight”.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            lol, you can place your bets too, I’m 6’1 240 and bench 365 :)

          • Franc

            you’re also a faggot for stating this, lol

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Truth hurts?

          • Croi Dhubh

            Cool, that gives him reason to be able to kill you in Florida during a confrontation

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Yawn.

      • j zac

        What cause did he have to ask him to step out? They enforce laws, not make them up.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          re-watch the video.

          • j zac

            I watched it. Maybe you should watch it. Unless you are an apologist or agree with the police state(which I think you are and do) there is no reason why the cop couldn’t take his paperwork and then continue his harrassment from outside the vechicle. The cop had his feelings hurt because somebody dared to not kiss his ass. Citizens have rights to ask questions. This guy was respectful and clearly no threat to the officer. Although he was a serf on his lordship’s street, he did nothig wrong. Like I said, just enforce the laws and stop turning law abiding citizens into criminals. Cops have a draconian approach to their job. This is why most of the country doesn’t trust cops anymore. Cops forget why they are here.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            If he did nothing wrong then any decent attorney will easily win this case. It’s not up to you to decide anything. Your opinion and mine don’t matter. The other majority of your statement is assumptions.

        • James Michael

          He had no cause, except he wanted to….

      • steveo

        you have to exit the vehicle if they tell you to, but at that point you are under arrest according to the ACLU and always demand representation of an attorney and remain silent and ask if you are free to leave. This is a big reason why leos don’t automatically get people out of cars because you can clam up, ask for a lawyer and then where are they going to go with their secondary investigation.

        Lock the car, don’t agree to any searches of the vehicle or your person. Stand there like a post and hold your shorts or pants on the outside of the leg, so they can’t say you were threatening them or going for a weapon. They have to have separate probable cause to search the trunk of the car or any zipped up purses or backbacks or suitcases. Try to stand in front of the dash cam if you can and if an leo is standing in front of the cam to block the view, make sure you let the State Attorney know that he’s doing that on purpose.

        • kraz

          And according to the courts you can no longer just remain silent as that silence can actually be used against you from my understanding of The People v. Tom decision. You now have to actually state that you are remaining silent and are invoking your 5th amendment rights. Absurd.

          • steveo

            I kind of agree with that that you have to ask for a lawyer and you can’t just ask for a lawyer like this, “I think I need to talk to a lawyer.” There you’re just thinking about it, you have to say, I need a lawyer. That should be enough for them to quit asking questions. But not always.

            But in FL, I’d love to read the PCA that the leo writes up saying that he arrested me for 843.02 because I remained silent to his questions. They won’t because they can’t even state that you remained silent or asked for an attorney on the PCA. Because neither of those two things triggers probable cause.A good defense attorney would never allow that testimony to come up in a trial.

            Why did you arrest the defendant, officer?

            Because he wanted a lawyer before answering my questions. Buzzer. Objection. Mistrial.

            PCA stands for probable cause affidavit. And there are cases, not alot, but cases where the leo has arrested say a homeless guy for remaining silent or asking for a lawyer and it’s in the PCA and judge releases the guy the next day because there was no probable cause to make the arrest. If you’re arrested in FL, you have to have a 1st appearance hearing within 24 hours.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          Common sense is strong with this guy, I wish the rest of these morons would understand this.

      • leroy edwards

        not true

        • Blayne Wyatt

          no it is.

      • B000000000000000000000

        Dude you need to go read the Constitution. Maybe you would learn something. Idiot!

        • Blayne Wyatt

          Maybe you should watch the video again and actually pay attention.

      • CheetahWhizerd

        Not if it’s an unlawful order…. which, if all of this is true in this story, it WAS an unlawful order.
        This driver had every right to resist this officer with up-to-and-including lethal force, even if the officer wasn’t using lethal force.
        Learn something…. John Bad Elk vs U.S.. look it up.
        But you seem to be one of the thoroughly brainwashed into being a submissive sheep, that I bet you wont even try to look at it. And even if you do, I bet you still condone unlawful police actions/commands.
        To each their own.
        Duck well.

      • Kevin Lynch

        Why is that a crime? Is it a crime not to show papers or respond to questions to anyone else who asks for no reason? Maybe the cop had a reason, but a traffic violation is NOT a valid reason for you to be treated like a criminal. The cop IS REQUIRED in Florida to explain why you were being detained (all over the U.S., I would assume). If they have a reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed, then you may be detained or even arrested. This police officer should not only be fired, but prosecuted for violating several of this man’s civil rights.If that had been me, I would absolutely already have a lawsuit filed. This “cop” epitomizes what many people see the police to be…nazis. The majority aren’t. But, as you can plainly see with the videos being released on a daily basis, many of them are – and are still actually too stupid to realize they can be imprisoned themselves for these actions.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          What’s with cops and nazi comments? ROFL you are clearly delusional. FYI the cop doesn’t have to tell you why you are being arrested until you are in the jail. read the statutes. Your only a lawyer on the internet.

          • HatesBootlickers
          • James Michael

            Bullcrap, because until he informs me, he has no authority to lay his hands on me…and when I know he has no standing against me…Touching me will allow me to defend myself….You have no authority to kidnap someone using force, without a stated articulable cause….

          • Blayne Wyatt

            And that is why I will be driving off with a citation and you will be driving off to jail. idiot.

      • Chris Sky

        Ignorant statement.

        An officer cannot just bark orders because “he feels like it” and you’re not obliged to “obey” simply because he’s an officer. If an officer pulls you over, they need a valid reason IE speeding.

        for an officer to ask you out the vehicle he also needs a valid reason.
        1) license plate of vehicle shows owner has suspended license or warrants
        2) car smells like drugs
        3) crowded car with only 1 officer present.
        4) officers spots an ILLEGAL weapon.

        A cop can’t just walk up to you on the street (or pull you over) and be like “get out of the car because I said so” … it’s the equivalent of the cop saying “hop on one foot because I said so” or “give me your phone number, because I said so” Cops can only give LAWFUL orders. You have to first break a law for a cop to have any authority over you.. .and a traffic violation is no valid reason for a cop to 1) force you to roll down your window “all the way” 2) get out of the car when you’re not under arrest/suspicion of committing a crime

        • steveo

          see above

        • Blayne Wyatt

          Use your malformed logic the next time your pulled over and see how far it gets you.

      • LaDonna Kinney

        No actually with out good reason you don’t have to exit the vehicle. People need to know their rights. Cops do that to try to get you on a DUI. With out reasonable cause, like erratic driving or swerving they can’t make you exit your vehicle

        • steveo

          watch Steve Silverman’s 10 rules in dealing with police on you tube: Billy Murphy who is a lifelong defense attorney and an actor on “The Wire” narrates the dvd. Listen to what he says.

      • DAnny.

        You are a goddamn idiot if you really think the driver was in the wrong.

      • larry Birch

        Spoken like a boot licking Whore! Please do society a favor and listen to the voices in your head an jump off that cliff.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          Spoken like a true redneck, womanizing, nascar loving, alcoholic. Please do society a favor and never reproduce and if you have, please kill it then hide it somewhere in your trailer park. Thanks for contributing a counter argument or something of substance.

        • James Michael

          Actually you have proven him correct over and over here…lmao

      • mike

        Blayne…pay attention. Listen to the officer, he says “I am ASKING you to get out of the car”.

        There is a reason for that wording. Do you know what it is?

      • sderax456 .

        shill

        • Blayne Wyatt

          thanks for the counter argument, well thought out.

          • sderax456 .

            sometimes the truth is simple

      • James Michael

        When the officer has absolutely zero authority, to order the man to do a thing…We are not theirs to command …try again slave…The officer had ZERO standing to assault this man….and the other 8 of you can, just keep licking those boots of your master also….

      • Ernest

        NOT unless he is being detained!

        • Blayne Wyatt

          Which he was.

      • Paul

        If the officer told you to pull out your “johnson” for inspection would you. You are not obligated to blindly follow all instructions from an officer. You can ask for clarification on an instruction and if you believe that the instruction is neither legal or valid you should not obey. Unfortunately you may be spending money on a lawyer to support your decision but in this case it was clear the cop would not give a clear reason why he needed him out. If he had given a good reason like I need to see you clearly to make sure you are the person on the license you gave me you are obligated to get out. At a minimum you can request a supervisor on scene (that may or may not happen. My pop was an officer for over three decades and he tought me to lower the window just enough to carry on conversation and to pass documents through. Keeping your hands on the wheel when not otherwise engagued. The cop was wrong and deserves to be punished.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          “If the officer told you to pull out your “johnson” for inspection would you.” No. You are trying to make a comparison that isn’t even relevant.

          “You can ask for clarification on an instruction and if you believe that the instruction is neither legal or valid you should not obey. ” You can believe what you want but understanding the laws is better than assuming your rights. You’re making a very broad statement.

          “The cop was wrong and deserves to be punished.” You are not in a position to make that claim. Only a lawyer and a judge can.

      • knowthetruth

        you sir don’t have a CLUE about real LAW.
        The cop is a public servant he has NO rights to demand anything from anyone unless they have a damn good reason.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          which he did :)

      • Phill Birdman

        If the officer does not have a legitimate reason to get you out of the car, then you are within your rights to refuse. Admittedly there are many legitimate reasons for an officer to request you exit the vehicle, but if the cop wasn’t willing/able to give ANY reason other than “because I’m a cop and told you to do it” then his order has no more power than if you were the one making the demand.

      • eric

        hello, u do not have to get out of the car just because crooked cop tell you too if it was me i would have beat that cop ass, for stepping outside the law real soon bullets going to start going back at these crooked bastards

      • Justsomeguy151

        WRONG, fascist. An unlawful order is STILL an unlawful order. And dumbass, he DID get out of the car and ONLY after he made sure to hear a pig say he would be safe from harm.

        “An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

      • Jonathan C. Mitchell

        No sir, it is not a crime to refuse an unlawful ‘order’. Not in the military, and not in civilian encounters with the police. The officer had an obligation to tell heim why he pulled him over. Additionally, there is not justification for asking a citizen out of their veihicle for a traffic stop, unless the officer suspects criminal activity has occured. Driving while black does not meet that criteria.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          Again you have to provide evidence it was an unlawful order. You’re assuming it’s unlawful.

      • droberg442

        What law is this? Failure to obey an order? You are not required to get out of your vehicle when the officer hasn’t declared the probable cause for arrest! Also if you are in fear for your life you must request an supervisor to be present so you are not harmed! Learn your rights!

        • Blayne Wyatt

          re watch the video, the officer clearly says why.

      • Blayne Wyatt IsGay

        I can now honestly say you are LITERALLY the STUPIDEST, most IGNORANT cunt on the internet. How can you be so fucking retarded? Honestly?….It hurts knowing people as stupid as you roam the earth.

        For the 5th fucking time, you’re WRONG! An officer cannot arrest you for any god damn reason you stupid cunt! It has to be lawful… which means abiding by the law, which means legal… by the books. Get it?! An unlawful arrest is one that is AGAINST the law..starting to get it?

        If a cop pulls you over and tells you to get out of the car, which by your info is classified as “under arrest”, then you have FULL right to know why you’re being arrested. If an answer is not given, you then can ask the officer if you are being detained. If he says yes, he needs to give a fucking answer. If he answers no, you’re free to go.

        However, if an officer can give a lawful reason to detain him, then the citizen must get out of the car, BY LAW! An example of a lawful reason is as stated in below comments are some of the following;

        1) license plate of vehicle shows owner has suspended license or warrants
        2) car smells like drugs
        3) crowded car with only 1 officer present.
        4) officers spots an ILLEGAL weapon.

        Get it through your thick, boot-licking skull that ANY reason, is not a LAWFUL reason to be detained….I bet you’re the cop who bashed him aren’t you? Even if you’re not, you’re nothing but a misguided fool unable to think for himself. Like I said before… dumbest cunt on the internet.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          I LOVE how you took the time to make an brand new profile just an attempt to mock me. Thank you. PS I’m not reading anything you write.

      • Bob Rittgers

        No it is not. A lawful order has to have a lawful purpose. It is clear by the video that there was no lawful purpose. If he was pulled over for speeding, then it would most likely fall under Title XXIII Motor vehicles 316.183 and is a non criminal infraction. Under Florida statute, crimes 775.08 (4) The term “crime” shall mean a felony or misdemeanor. So it is clear that an infraction is not a crime. No probable cause exists to even pull him over, since a crime was not committed. This was an unlawful arrest, false imprisonment, assault and battery, and more. I would document everything and each crime committed, get all video/ audio recordings of officer body cams or mics and cruisers, for each officer there. Then file law suit.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          That is for a lawyer and judge to decide.

    • Fascist Slayer

      I’m just really, really confused?? I thought it was only white police officers who were fascist little bastards?

      Billions and Billions of Records

      -People on Earth – 7 billion
      -Seconds since the Birth of Christ – 64 billion
      -Google searches per month – 100 billion
      -Hamburgers sold by McDonalds – 300 billion
      -Stars in the Milky Way (estimated) – 400 billion

      # of records available via Fascist Amerikas NSA Fascist Surveillance ICREACH program – more than 850 billion.

      – Source: American Hero, Edward Snowden.

      • PINAC Troll

        Its not that hard Pizza is Not a Crime.

      • JackBlack

        Nope, they are all fascist regardless of the color of their skin.

    • sexy

      I totally agree with you. The cop was dead wrong for what he did. I hope the bastard lose his job.

  • stop please

    egh, who cares really. the jerk off should have just pulled over and rolled his window down.

    • Crypto HB

      If I tell you to roll your window down farther than a few inches, you are not required to, because I have no legal authority to demand it.
      If a cop tells you to roll your window down farther than a few inches, you are not required to, because he has no legal authority to demand it.
      Whether or not you would capitulate to any unnecessary or unlawful request made by anyone, does not mean everyone else should. Make sense?

      • sfmc98

        If a cop tells you to roll your window down farther than a few inches,
        you are not required to, because he has no legal authority to demand it.

        This simply isn’t true. Cops have been given the authority by the US Supreme Court in Pennsylvania v. Mimms to control your movement during a traffic stop, including pulling you out of the car for no reason. Don’t like it? Think its unfair? That may be so, but that doesn’t change what the rules are. They do have the legal authority to make you put your window down.

        The only way you can win is if you play by the rules, otherwise you get royally fucked in the end.

        • Blayne Wyatt

          When you act like a douche you get treated like one. Refusing to cooperate when told to exit a vehicle by a LEO is a crime.

          • Mr_Pants

            If being a douche bag can get you arrested and beaten, then you might want to be careful.

          • John Rogers

            Lord knows how I would…

          • Lucius Liu

            Cops need a reasonable and articulable suspicion to detain you. This cop did not have one. His response for why he pulled him over was because “he wanted to”. Unlawful detention/false arrest/false charges are also crimes. The Supreme Court has upheld that US citizens have the legal right to resist unlawful arrest by using any means necessary, including deadly force.

            Remember Blayne, cop apologist extraordinaire, respect is a two way street.

          • steveo

            He had a RAS, the expired plate. That’s enough to tow the vehicle. And the leo isn’t going to tow the vehicle with the driver inside even if he sits there peacefully and quiet. The leo doesn’t have to tell you why he pulled you over, he just has to tell the court why he pulled you over.

          • James Michael

            Not having a contractual plate on your car is not RAS for a criminal act…I have not had one since 2007 and am left alone…I do not give anyone interest in my property especially the State. Try actually learning some law and knowing a bit about, what you are talking about…

          • Kyle Davinski

            in this case, then, blayne, i think you got an ass whoopin due to you, because you a clearyl a douche bag

          • steveo

            I don’t think he’s a douche bag, he’s just misinformed, he needs to watch Steve Silverman’s 10 rules for dealing with Police, it’s free on youtube. And read the ACLU’s website on dealing with traffic stops.

          • John Rogers

            Which is why 9/11 was justified.. those idiot islamics have their own set of retarded laws too… and Blayne, after you’re done sucking your father’s cock, you can begin to follow those islamic laws too.. OR ELSE.

          • James Michael

            Yessa massa Blaynes bes a good boys and does xactly what massa says to do…. You are incorrect unless you are their slave….Get a clue

          • Blayne Wyatt

            see you treat me like a dick and I will treat you like one racists fuck.

        • Brian Wirth

          They cannot make you roll your window down further than required to communicate and exchange information. That is a fact. They do have the ability to make you get out of the car though.

          • sfmc98

            There is no right to have your window up during a detention or arrest. If they can make you get out of your car, they can do anything short of that as well.

          • Brian Wirth

            I did not say up. I said you are only required to have it far enough down to communicate and exchange information. The only reason they want you to roll it down is for 2 reasons. So they can hopefully get a sniff of pot, and to search your vehicle while they are standing next to it. There is NO LAW anywhere that states you must roll your window all the way down, even if ordered to do so.

          • sfmc98

            There is NO LAW anywhere that states you must roll your window all the way down

            There is also “NO LAW” that specifically allows officers to pull people out of their cars. But the legal principle of being physically limited or required to do certain things during an arrest or detention permits it as the Supreme Court has consistently held. If you’re out of your car, they even can tell you to get back inside.

            Its pretty academic, anyway, because if someone doesn’t want to roll their window down, then the simple solution is the one that occurred here. “Sir, step out of the car.”

          • Blayne Wyatt

            It’s not a window issue, its a douche bag issue. You act like a dick, you get treated like a dick.

          • kraz

            So according to you the cop should be treated like a dick. I agree.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            You assume and agree to an assumption. You’re either extremely stupid or extremely bad at “gotcha moments.”

          • kraz

            And you’re either very mentally challenged or just a very bad troll. Probably both tbh.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Critically thinking is hard for you?

          • Lucius Liu

            I agree, the cop was definitely a douchebag instigator who was probably having a roid rage. We the people need to look into testing our peace officers for performance enhancers.

          • steveo

            Nah, he just has the misfortune of having to patrol South St. Pete. Not quite as dangerous as parts of Chicago, but almost.

          • Rail Car Fan

            @ Blayne Wyatt…

            As your first sentence said: “It’s not a window issue, its a douche bag issue.”

            You’re right! The cop was a “douche bag”. Couldn’t have said it better.

            Rail Car Fan

          • Blayne Wyatt

            He was, but the driver was first :)

          • steveo

            Here’s the best ever How to deal with police video ever:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ

          • John Rogers

            AHA, your obsession with dicks rears its head.. you must have been one of the kids who actually enjoyed getting molested.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            Can’t enjoy something I’ve never experienced. Your lack of intelligence gets in the way of indulging in immensely satisfying internet rage. Grow up kid.

          • steveo

            I think leos do certain things by percentages. 95% of people give consent to search, which I think is a real shame and 98% of people roll their windows down when the leo asks them to, and 99% get out of the car when they tell them to, so the rest,well, there must be something wrong with them to refuse to do these things. So, get them out of the car and start questioning them and lecture them. That’s what’ll happen. If the percentages were reversed, we’d probably have different laws and different politicians.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            And I’ve gotten out of my speeding tickets 100% for not being a dick.

          • sfmc98

            You have a right to act like a dick, you just need to know the law.

          • Blayne Wyatt

            agreed.

          • steveo

            case law is law

          • steveo

            watch some of those NYPD copwatcher clips on you tube. If you want to see brazen traffic stops, watch those. 3 cops in a cruiser pull over 2 or black guys , one of the cops hangs back by the cop car, one goes up to the passenger side and the other to the driver side, without even talking to the driver they attempt to open the doors and pop the locks if the window’s open and start searching the dash and the glove box, with the two guys still sitting there, then come all the DLQ’s , where you going, where you coming from, where’s the dope, get the dope out of your pockets right now. Then after all that is done, they might ask the driver for his license, but usually tell them to get lost. It’s a stop and frisk on wheels.

            This one here is nothing, compared to that lawlessness.

        • John H Johnson III

          Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court has passed some pretty unconstitutional rulings you must admit. I do know every state’s laws are different and I’ve seen numerous pros do this in other states such as the state he is in, Florida.

          I would pull into a well lit area and ask for his supervisor, crack my windows and ask him if he is ordering me to get out of the vehicle so that I can use that in court, I’ll put my windows up, only then will I get out and tell him immediately I do not consent to searches, with my phone in my hand. If he takes my camera away I sue for violations of my civil rights to record.

          Playing by the rule of law is the only rule I’ll play not his. Blind obedience is the reason why cops are psycho today.

          You either grow some balls and assert your rights or loose them like the Nazi’s did to their own citizens before they conquered the rest of Europe.

          • sfmc98

            Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court has passed some pretty unconstitutional rulings you must admit.

            The Pennsylvania Supreme Court isn’t relevant to this case. The United States Supreme Court case of Pennsylvania v Mimms is.

            … with my phone in my hand. If he takes my camera away I sue for violations of my civil rights to record.

            Despite popular misconception, you don’t have a right to hold a camera in your hand while being detained.

          • John H Johnson III

            Me: Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court has passed some pretty unconstitutional rulings you must admit.

            Your “Wrong” misleading answer: The Pennsylvania Supreme Court isn’t relevant to this case. The United States Supreme Court case of Pennsylvania v Mimms…

            Right Answer: Therefore the officer had the right to arrest Mimms under the charges because he observed the bulge under the jacket.

            Pennsylvania v Mimms: Was ruled in the favor of the cop because the pig said he saw a bulge and found a weapon. Therefore it doesn’t matter if you have a bulge or not if that cop “unlawfully” commands you to leave the car and he doesn’t find anything… That is a clear violation of your civil rights which means that kid did not have to get out the car just like with numerous other videos I’ve seen when police threaten people to get out of the car and they refuse only to be told to drive off by their supervisor. Any cop can say he smells marijuana or see a bulge in someone’s pants, it doesn’t mean he has the right to violate their 4th Amendments.

            Still waiting for the case law that says that you have to stop recording when being detained. Detention doesn’t mean you have lost all constitutional abilities to exercise your rights.

            What police department you work for again?

          • sfmc98

            Its misleading because you didn’t read the case brief you googled carefully enough?

            Right Answer: Therefore the officer had the right to arrest Mimms under the charges because he observed the bulge under the jacket.

            This wasn’t the holding of the case. The issue was whether the order to step out of the car of an already detained person was any more than minimal and a violation of his Fourth Amendment rights.

            The US Supreme Court held that stepping out was “at most a mere inconvenience” and Mimm’s arguments “cannot prevail when balanced against legitimate concerns for the officer’s safety.”

            The second issue about the bulge is irrelevant to the case at hand.

            Still waiting for the case law that says that you have to stop recording when being detained.

            That’s not what I said. I didn’t say you had to stop recording, I said you don’t have the right to hold the phone or camera up in your hand while being detained.

            What prison law library did you study in again?

          • John H Johnson III

            How are going to record if you don’t have the phone in your hand to record?? What is he supposed to use, telepathy? lol Are you still in prison?

            Furthermore, you read the conclusion not the actual ruling of the case. No one comes on CNN or the Forward Nazi news channel after hearing about a Supreme Court case and state, “The conclusion was…” The say the “Ruling was…”

            As I said before the RULING was that he asked him to step out of the car supposedly because there was bulge in his pocket and they found a weapon but that kid “above” was had no weapon. Along with that the rest of ruling says that he did it to see the bulge more clear so he asked him to get out of the car and upon the pat down he found the “unlicensed weapon.”

            Once again it goes back to actually having reasonable suspicion. “Reasonable”

            Cops can’t just go around pulling people over and demanding that they get out of their vehicles to pay them down for no reason. They need “reasonable suspicion.”

            You noticed how the cop never broke the window, he just oinked at him to scare him, lol.

            It’s like how those cops who shot the unarmed man in the subway back in the 90s when he just had a wallet, the city got sued for millions for that and this kid better do the same.

            No unlicensed weapon
            No oncoming traffic

            NO reason to search or command him to get out of his vehicle.

          • James Michael

            Especially since being detained is an arrest as the definition is to be taken prisoner….

        • Norm M

          Please note, that in this case, the driver had an expired license plate.

          So the officer had reasonable cause for the stop, and therefore the order to exit the vehicle.

          In THIS case, the officer gave NO reason for the stop, so still had no cause to “control the situation”.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_v._Mimms
          “the initial “violation” of freedom was permissible because the Driver was driving with an expired license plate in violation of the Pennsylvania Department of Motor Vehicles Code.”

          • steveo

            In FL, the leo has the right to put you in handcuffs and take you to booking for any violation of the UTC. Uniform Traffic Code. They don’t, because the judges get pissed, but the law says they can put you in handcuffs, tow your car and take you to jail for an expired licence plate.

          • James Michael

            And traffic is commercial pal….not living your life….You attempt to armed rob me of my car without a conviction or judicial order and I’ll probably shoot you…You are an idiot…Please tell me you don’t have a badge and a gun, you retard….

        • Daniel Wood

          They CAN order you out of the car, but they have zero legal authority to make you roll your window down more than a couple of inches.

          • steveo

            One of our premier DUI attorneys has a series of informative videos on his blog, really good stuff. The one on rolling down windows, he says that if the leo wants you to roll down the window and you don’t, that’s a sure way to get arrested for DUI, if you’ve been drinking or showing signs of impairment, of course.

        • Crypto HB

          Please cite your source that shows police have the legal authority to make you put your window down farther than is required for immediate communication.

          Any use of force or lawful order, must be reasonable and prudent, and based on the information the officer had available at the time. “Because I want to” is not a legal, let alone reasonable, cause for detention or the following use of force.

          Pennsylvania v Mimms does not allow police to demand you roll your window all the way down. It does allow them to order you out of the vehicle for officer safety or the safety of the public. The individual in the video was within his rights to not roll his window down more than is required to communicate. In addition, he clearly obeyed the lawful order to get out of his vehicle after expressing a reasonable concern for his safety.

          This is not about whether or not I like it or think it’s fair. It is about reasonable and prudent. The standard by which police officers that have constitutional authority to violate your rights and even legally end your life, must abide. An officer could articulate that requiring you to do jumping jacks is justified because it protects the officer’s safety during a stop, since you cannot assault him/her while performing such activity. However, I think we would agree that such a demand would be unreasonable and imprudent. Which is why those standards are always applied by every court across the country. Was the officer in this case, reasonable in his demand that the individual roll his window down all the way? No. The individual did not pose an immediate threat and they were clearly able to communicate effectively. Was the individual being a jerk? Sure, but there is no law requiring you to be nice to the police or anyone else. Laws are very specific and not subject to the whims of police.

        • steveo

          well, you might not have to put the window all the way down, but you do have to get out of the car. If a leo is insistent that you roll down the window and you don’t, he’ll probably tell you to exit the vehicle. Put the window up, lock the car. You know what to do next.

        • James Michael

          Does the supreme court own your life? lmao? They are bar members and approved NDAA and the Patriot Act, which means they are also traitors….

      • Blayne Wyatt

        When you act like a douche you get treated like one. Photography is not a crime … No but refusing to cooperate when told to exit a vehicle by a law enforcement officer IS.

        • James Michael

          Bullcrap, unless he has jurisdiction…I have no King buddy …Stop the boot licking…

    • John Rogers

      Stop please, stop before you get hurt, cunt hole.

    • UygurLord

      If he tells you to blow him are you still a jerk off when you say no? A police officer’s request is just that a REQUEST. Request’s under the color of law, are STILL requests.
      We know the officer is a criminal because he falsified an official arrest record and incident report. The other TWO officers are criminals (as the first in my opinion) because they allowed criminal and thuggish behavior in clear opposition to their sworn oaths and job duties. The are NO GOOD COPS if BAD COPS remain on police forces. THE first duty of GOOD POLICE would be to be living examples of the laws they enforce.
      If a GOOD cop cannot arrest, report, or stop bad activity up to and including illegal activity and they cannot/will not/do not report it and or take action, then that is an admission that they are in a FULLY bad cop environment. If a police officer fears for his life or career in telling on another officer, then that speaks to the prevalence of bad actors throughout the system.

      Therefore, THERE are NO GOOD COPS. (regardless of how nice a person “personally” they seem. Members of a gang, are just that, members of a gang. Color of law notwithstanding.

      • steveo

        I think what people are misinterpreting here is a lawful order from a leo. Probably if you sift them all down, there is only one real lawful order and that’s “You’re under arrest.” “get out of the car, while maybe not lawful, it’s still: You’re under arrest, that is lawful until the court says, it’s not a lawful arrest.

        That’s what he told the driver. He has to submit to arrest. Whether the arrest is lawful or not is up to the court to decide. You can resist an unlawful arrest in FL, but not with violence. So if he just sat there and did nothing, he’s resisting but without violence. In that case, if the leo believe’s he has PC, he smashes the window and pulls the driver out and takes him into custody with whatever force is the least necessary and brings him to the court.

        This driver could have avoided all that by 1) stopping the car immediately and turning on the overhead light and waiting for the leo to direct him where to go with the loud speaker or the leo might just decide to do the stop right there in the middle of the road. 2) roll the window down all the way, if you haven’t been drinking, if you have probably half way. Keep the doors locked and get your docs out when the leo asks for them. Hand them to the leo 3) If the license appears valid to the leo, he’ll ck the ins for the dates then probably hand that back. Then he’ll either ask you if you know why he stopped you or just tell you. Say you don’t know. Then he’ll tell you, then you ask if you are free to leave. That will usually stop the leo from asking all the dumb leo questions (DLQ’s). If he starts in with the DLQ’s, just keep answering with, Am I free to leave, NOW. example would be: Where you coming from? I’m sorry, officer, did you say I was free to leave? No, I asked where you were coming from? Oh, ok, well, I have to get somewhere, am I free to go Now?

        He’ll say, not right now, I’ll be back with you. Then he’ll do all the warrant cking and citation writing, then he’ll come back to your window explain what to do with the tickets and hand you back your docs. Ask if you’re free to leave, he’ll probably say yes, roll the window up and go. Then Fight the tickets in court. Traffic tickets are much more fun to fight in court and a lot less expensive than a criminal charge.

  • Christopher Shepard

    I live in Clearwater. I will get answers. If the allegations are true, I will not tolerate that behavior from our Law Enforcement Officers here in Pinellas County.

    • Tom Frazier

      Are you a DA or work for the city. If so I hope someone can start a campaign to stop this kind of brutality.

      • Bogdan Rotariu

        google it, he is a candidate for that district http://shepard2014.com/

        • Tom Frazier

          Thank you for the info

    • http://www.policemisconduct.net Film The Police Always

      Chris, my question to you is, if you do get elected will you continue to care? Most say what they need to say to get elected and then seem to care less. I hope it’s genuine.

      • John Rogers

        Care shmare you yanks are such pussies.. take the law into your own hands.. and tell no one! ;0

      • Christopher Shepard

        I will always care.

    • Blayne Wyatt

      Refusing to cooperate when told to exit a vehicle by a LEO is a crime.

      • POLARPICS

        why should people step out of the car to get beaten

        • Blayne Wyatt

          people should never step out of a car to get beaten. However, if its a criminal, I have no issues with that.

          • John H Johnson III

            Are you some sort of cop?

          • Blayne Wyatt

            no.

          • Rail Car Fan

            You sure sound that way. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if you felt that “Cops Can Do NO Wrong”!

            Rail Car Fan

          • James Michael

            Just a moron…lmao and psychopath…

          • TrollopeReader

            he’s a graphic artist and web-designer.

          • MongoLikesCandy

            So basically you shouldnt get out of the car to get beaten. But its a crime to not exit your car. By your logic, him not submitting to being beaten makes him a criminal therefore deserved to be beaten.

          • Fascist Slayer

            Stepping out of your vehicle to get beaten by government officials is a crime against peace and humanity. Since fascist Amerika is at constant and endless war with anything and everything, Americans need to take it upon themselves to start evoking the Nuremberg Principle.

            “Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience…therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring”

            — Nuremberg War Crime Tribunal, 1950

          • PINAC Troll

            This is not the 1950s, Pizza is Not a Crime.

          • Lucius Liu

            So you have no issues with cops being judge and jury? That sounds pretty fascist to me.

        • PINAC Troll

          To protect their pizza from getting a ticket or arrested.

  • Ariel V Rosa

    THIS!!, this is why I installed full video recording front and back in my car with audio. There is no way i will ever take an officer’s word as truth. When you are in a situation where your word is the only thing differing from another person’s word, video is your last defense. The systems have gotten cheap, protect your selves, not just against law enforcement; bad drivers and road rage.

    • kringlebertfistyebuns

      Got any recommendations for equipment?

      • Crypto HB

        Great question. FWIW, my friend has a sticker on the back window of his vehicle, along the driver’s side, that says, “ATTENTION: This vehicle is equipped with full vehicle, audio, video and system recording equipment, in constant monitoring mode.” (or something very similar)

        He says that the police always pause a second to read it and he has never had an issue since he placed the sticker,and he fits the “young, black, gangster profile” to a T. There is no actual equipment. It’s kind of like putting a security alarm sign in your front yard. It’s an effective deterrent and a lot cheaper than installing a real one.

    • Shawn

      I’m with Kringle. Any equipment suggestions?

  • ENTWAFFNUNGDERGESTAPO!

    How many more JM Lopez’ have these pissant punk nazi fucks created? Well, as long as copycats keep targeting police impersonators, they’ll be protecting and serving way more than any PD. Especially StPete’s.

    • PINAC Troll

      Well Pizza is Not a Crime.

  • Difster

    Dirty thug bastards. Hold their feet to the fire.

    • ENTWAFFNUNGDERGESTAPO!

      hung over a fire. medieval style. incinerate all demons, vampires, etc.

      burn 2x for good measure. leave no relics to be venerated by orcs

  • Boko Hos

    “Get out the car” enough said.

    • John Rogers

      What, that you suck cock faggot american douche?

      • Boko Hos

        Dude, stop projecting your own desires. I think you’re revealing a bit too much about your sexual deviance.

    • James Michael

      Obey massa….nuff said…..Be a good lil trained monkey …lmao

  • http://www.policemisconduct.net Film The Police Always

    I appreciate this man recording a thug piece of shit, but if you can’t give out this thugs name then you don’t deserve the help from us. Just saying. This cop was acting like a thug piece of shit to make a point with you and deserves to be made a star.

    I know he’s reading this and I have this to say to him: YOU DO KNOW THAT YOUR WHITE COP BUDDYS HATE YOU AND THE BLACK POPULACE RIGHT? The system hates blacks and cops hate blacks. You are a sell out to the black community and if anything, you should be a role model in helping black people. The problem with you is that this black man that you pulled over was not only educated, but sounded educated compared to you AXING HIM, and that pissed you off. You’re a thug dirtbag,

    Just so no one else gets the wrong information, YOU ARE required to get out of the car if one of these assholes tells you to get out of the car. You are NOT required to roll the window down further then what would be needed to pass information back and forth.

    • ENTWAFFNUNGDERGESTAPO!

      you think it can actually read? let’s hope so and that it inspires death-by-masturbation-hanging (forget the word for this?)

      • http://www.policemisconduct.net Film The Police Always

        Autoerotic Asphyxiation

    • Fascist Slayer

      I love you and I’m a huge fan of your comments, but I have to disagree a bit, I don’t think the U.S. has a black/white issue, or racism if you will, the U.S. has a rotting fascist / fascism problem, the black/white/racism question is a symptom or by-product of the fascism.

      • WesTexan

        The knockout game and Ferguson are in direct opposition to your black/white issue statement. While there are hundreds of black-on-white violent incidents, especially via the knockout game, I challenge you to show me more than two or three similar white-on-black knock outs. We do live in a fascist police state that is getting worse by the day, but black-on-white crime is at an all time high. Why was the white Marine beaten almost to death by black thugs in a MacDonalds in Ferguson, MO.? Right. No racism there. Since Obama took office, there’s more racial tension now than in the past 20 years.

        • Fascist Slayer

          In Fascist Amerika, fascism is equal opportunity, I didn’t say there wasn’t racism, I said racism is just a symptom of the over all problem… fascism. The United States is a fascist decaying rot of a nation. Clean the fascist rot.

      • PINAC Troll

        Ok but Pizza is Not a Crime.

        • Pragmatic Liberaltarian

          I enjoy a good troll as much as the next guy, but you’re just being boringly repetitive. Entertain me with something funny or clever or original. I’ll settle for something that angers or even irks me.

          • Rail Car Fan

            @ Pragmatic Liberaltarian…

            What you have to realize is this.

            When ones (PINAC Troll), educational background is such that they’re only able to respond in a very limited nature, then you can only take that same response for what it’s worth, which in this case is really worth… NOTHING!

            Rail Car Fan

        • Falutin Free

          Bad pizza is most definitely a crime.

      • http://www.policemisconduct.net Film The Police Always

        Trust me when I say I’m not upset that you have other views on this problem we see playing out in this country. I also enjoy and sometimes disagree with comments from many different people, and that includes folks like XCLS. I agree with your fascist comments, but I’m not convinced that cops don’t hate black people. I know cops see a side of folks from all walks of life that others don’t normally see, but they also have to remember that they signed on for that shit. If they are becoming so jaded in their views that it’s actually changing them as a person then they ONLY have two options. 1. Seek out a mental evaluation and then mental help to un-fuck their heads. 2. Quit

        I know departments have programs for their employees to seek out help if they are having overwhelming thoughts or beliefs that they believe is brought on from the job, but these men & women don’t seek out the help for fear of being considered weak. Well, it’s the responsibility of their peers or upper management to watch these people for changes. If they feel an employee is losing it then guess what, take them off the street to get help. If they allow it to fester then they are a ticking time bomb with their finger on a trigger.

        • Fascist Slayer

          LOL.. speaking of XCLS, where is that asshole. Let’s you and I rip him a new asshole.. lol..

  • Blayne Wyatt

    When you act like a douche you get treated like one. Photography is not a crime … No but refusing to cooperate when told to exit a vehicle by a law enforcement officer IS.

    • Bob

      Is that all you can really say? Really? That is your argument for every comment on this thread. He was exiting the vehicle. He did provide the registration and drivers license. This cop was the douche that had his panties in a wad for no reason. Go back to your mom’s basement.

      • Blayne Wyatt

        You don’t know what happened when the officer first interacted with him. We don’t have basements in florida, but good attempt. BOB.

  • Guest

    Light up their Facebook page:
    https://www.facebook.com/StPetePD

  • Red

    punk ass kid, you asked for the “scrapes”, you got em………..listen to the officer & youd get off, instead you asked for it

    • kraz

      He did listen to them. Maybe you watched a different video? Funny you calling a soldier of the US a “punk ass kid.”

  • Wonka Tonka

    Could have summarized that lengthy article as follows:

    Dumb ass refuses a lawful order to exit a vehicle and gets arrested.

    But it should get the resident dimwits all excited

    • Bob

      So then what led up to the officer giving that order? He provided the paperwork that the officer asked for. The officer was too much of a thug to take the paperwork through the opened window and continue with the traffic stop like a professional would have. All the officer wanted to do was escalate the situation. But you would rather look the other way and give the umpa lumpa in a clown suit a free pass.

  • Brian Wirth

    Actually by backing into your parking spot, you were obstructing, AND presenting a threat to the officer. The proper way to have handled this is pull into your complex, and even your parking spot with the rear end of your car facing the officers car. By intentionally hiding your license plate, a suspicious activity when you know you are getting pulled over, he then had the right to ask you to get out of the car. I don’t normally side with the police, but this time will be the exception. There were many things done wrong in this video, not only by you but the cop as well. However the major blame for him acting the way he did may lay on you for backing in.

    Also you are required to exit your vehicle when asked/ordered to do so. You are not required to roll your window all the way down. Only enough for you and the officer to communicate properly, and so you can exchange legal information. PINAC should remove this article as it does not meet the guidelines. The person screwed up, thinking they knew how to handle themselves, they didn’t.

    With that said, the officer is required to say why he stopped you…. So yeah. Either way this video is an example of how NOT to act during a police stop.

    • Boko Hos

      And how NOT to conduct yourself as a police officer.

    • kraz

      I thought I saw him exit the vehicle.

      • Brian Wirth

        He did. After refusing the officer multiple times.

    • Rail Car Fan

      @ “Brian Wirth” who said in part…

      “The proper way to have handled this is pull into your complex, and even your parking spot with the rear end of your car facing the officers car. By intentionally hiding your license plate, a suspicious activity when you know you are getting pulled over…”

      Let’s back the train up here. I’ve been licensed and driving for more years than I can count… and as such, I “BACK INTO” 99.999% of the time. By doing so it doesn’t mean that I, or someone else backing, is intentionally hiding the vehicles license plate… no matter under what circumstanced you may perceive them to be.

      Rail Car Fan

      • Falutin Free

        Especially since the officer probably ran the plate before he even started the traffic stop.

      • Brian Wirth

        It does not matter what YOU are doing. All that matters is what you are perceived as doing. And it doesn’t matter who is doing the perceiving, civilian or cop. When being pulled over, if you make the effort to “hide” the back of your car, it can be seen as obstruction and suspicious. No matter how you want to spin this, the fact is, the kid put himself in a bad spot, and didn’t know how to handle it.

    • Pragmatic Liberaltarian

      Does Florida not have front license plates? We do in Texas.

      • Falutin Free

        No, Florida does not issue front plates.

    • steveo

      i think these are all good articles because these are instructive situations for everyone, on how to handle police encounters and how not to handle police encounters. I’d have to put this one in the not category. Being respectful, and calm with a leo doesn’t mean that you are going to give up Constitutional Rights.

  • stk33

    I’m not disputing that the citizen should have complied with the request to exit the vehicle. I wonder however, is refusing to do so is an obstruction? if I understand correctly, during the detention, the officer may apply force in order to detain (so in this case he could indeed break the window and forcibly remove Curtis from the car if he continued to refuse to exit), however, the citizen has no obligation to cooperate, and he can resist if this is his choice – there’s crime “resisting arrest” but there’s no “resisting detention”; so, after having detained him with whatever means necessary, the cop should proceed with his initial “investigation”, but he can’t charge for obstruction. ECLS, would you agree?

    • Taylor Slow

      When you are pulled over for a traffic violation it is more than a detention. A detention occurs when the police detain you to investigate because they have reasonable suspicion that you have, are or are about to commit a crime. With a traffic stop for probable cause that you have violated the law you are technically under arrest though only rarely will the police take you into custody.
      It is not a matter of applying force to detain, it is complying with a police officer’s lawful order to unlock your door and exit the vehicle. Failure to comply with the lawful order gives the police the right to forcibly remove you from your vehicle and arrest you for a state crime along the lines of failure to obey. Likewise, if you decide to exit your vehicle at a traffic stop and you refuse an order to get back in your vehicle you could find yourself arrested on a similar charge.
      There are numerous court cases that affirm that refusal to exit your vehicle when ordered or even requested by the police at a traffic stop constitutes a crime. Not a recommended approach.
      Once you start down the road of refusing to obey and obstructing a police officer they are likely to take you into custody and to do so quickly and with force. If you want to avoid being injured while forcibly being removed from your vehicle it is recommended that you do so voluntarily and promptly.
      And if you do decide to obstruct the police and get arrested, make sure you video tape it so Carlos can write and article and make up an entirely different story as to why you were arrested. For example, if you are chewing gum at the time Carlos can claim you were arrested for chewing gum. Makes for a good story.

      • http://www.policemisconduct.net Film The Police Always

        True, one must get out, but in this case he stated he was in fear of being hurt, so any reasonable person would agree that he had a point. After the cop assured him that he would not be hurt, the driver agreed to get out and made things very clear that he was getting out, and even was calm cool and collected while saying and doing so. This cop got crazy and angry when the man wanted to record the incident outside of his vehicle and then used excessive force to make his point. Fire the Uncle Tom and make an example out of this THUG!

      • stk33

        > Failure to comply with the lawful order gives the police the right to forcibly remove you from your vehicle

        agreed, that’s what I said as well

        > and arrest you for a state crime along the lines of failure to obey.

        That’s what I’m wondering about. As far as I know, there’s no statute that makes non-obeying police officer’s order (other than the order to direct traffic) a crime. Can you name one?

        > There are numerous court cases that affirm that refusal to exit your vehicle when ordered or even requested by the police at a traffic stop constitutes a crime.

        Can you name one?

        https://www.floridacarry.org/images/stories/SA15-November2013-2.pdf seems to concur with what I say: the court has affirmed that the police had the right to break the window and remove the driver from the car, but it does not say a word that his refusing to exit from the car by himself and forcing them to use violence was a crime. The article mentions resisting arrest, but in our scenario it’s all before the arrest is announced.

        Again, I’m not disputing that when the officer is met with resistance during detention, he can use force to have his way; that resisting is dangerous, may result in injuries and death, etc etc. – it’s all understood. But is it an obstruction? I think not: the officer in this case is supposed to apply the force, and the citizen is not preventing him from doing just that.

      • Rail Car Fan

        @ “Taylor Slow” who stated…

        ” If you want to avoid being injured while forcibly being removed from
        your vehicle it is recommended that you do so voluntarily and promptly.”

        At which point the following is the response given by the “Badge Bully” cop when asked about the killing of the innocent unarmed driver.

        Q: Officer, what happened at the traffic stop?

        cop: I asked the innocent victim… err, I mean driver, to slowly exit their vehicle while keeping their hands in plain sight.

        Q: What happened then officer?

        cop: The “f’en Punk”… I mean citizen, appeared to open the door real fast while jumping out rapidly in my direction.

        Q: Then what?

        He was holding his cell phone… I mean a object which I perceived to be a weapon and because I “Feared For My Life” I drew my service weapon and fired a single round into their body to stop the threat.”

        Q: And:

        cop: Unfortunately my firearm had a mechanical malfunction and continued shooting rounds until the magazine and my additional backup mags completely discharged all 84 rounds into the perps prone & handcuffed body.

        Results: Cop Shooting Justified!

        Yep. I agree with “Taylor Slow”. Nothing bad will never, ever happen to those of use who obey “Badge Bully” cops.

        Right! (Emoticon of of someone shaking their head back and forth as they roll their eyes upward into their head.)

        I guess then, that things we see “Badge Bully” cops doing on this web site (plus many others), is nothing more than a figment of our imagination.

        Rail Car Fan

    • http://www.policemisconduct.net Film The Police Always

      ECLS cried like a little pussy on his website and said he’s taken his ball and is never coming over here to play again because he was butt hurt that a member of PINAC calls him out for his bullshit.

      • MongoLikesCandy

        Can you answer me a question? Why do you tear apart others who seem to actually be supporting your cause? I realize ECLS is an ex-cop with some frustrating opinions, but he actually seemed to be supporting the overall message of “photography is not a crime”. I actually valued his perspective from the other side of the table and his knowledge of the law, even if I disagreed with his opinions.

        There are always going to be differing opinions on a site like this (some are cops who will always disagree), but we’re not just sitting in our basement complaining to each other about how cops are bad. We need to educate others. And those that we need to educate aren’t necessarily on our side yet. Tearing apart those that agree with everything you think doesnt help a thing.

        And to REALLY get the effect we want, we need to educate the police. Which means getting a few of them on our side; which also means at least hearing theirs. If they dismiss this site as “just a bunch of cophaters and troublemakers” then we’ll never get anywhere.

        Its already an uphill battle, man.

        • BabbaZee

          if you go read his posts he immediately calls people names, he takes on an arrogant and nasty tone, and it is obvious he is not out for any sort of honest discussion.
          The only opinion he values is his own and he loves the sound of his own voice. They call people like these “trolls” in Blogistan.. and rightly so.
          No matter how much “knowledge” a person like that may have it is useless when they decide they are the sole arbiter of all things, and everyone else on the planet is “an idiot”. What he wants is to upset people, not discuss, not debate, not educate.

          • MongoLikesCandy

            He’s not the worst by far. I get irritated by this because it turns off people that we need to educate. People I’ve sent to this site read the comments and want nothing to do with it.

            We NEED to talk to cops, cops that are willing to join the conversation.

          • BabbaZee

            Unfortunately it is obvious he is not willing to join a conversation with anyone who has any differing views from his own. He is strictly monologue. Also he is not a cop, his sign on says he is an ex cop law student, and who knows if any of that is the truth.

            Anyway I agree with you and if one shows up that is actually willing to have conversations that would be great.

          • MongoLikesCandy

            Most of the time when I saw his comments, it was very matter of fact description of how encounters would be seen by the courts or police procedure. I think he enjoyed stirring the pot a little, too, but a lot seemed to stem from people attacking him and his response.

            Im not defending him per se, because i havent read everything he wrote. Im just making a plea for civil discourse.

      • stk33

        I didn’t notice anything like that on his site.

    • NotSheep

      Traffic stops are code violations, NOT unlawful activity, unless you have harmed someone or someones property. Translation for lower IQ readers, if you get caught rolling through a stop sign it is not breaking the law, if you ran over that stop sign, you broke the law, and can be arrested.

      • Al Simpson

        Your notion that you have to harm someone or someone’s property to be doing something unlawful is confused and erroneous.

        • James Michael

          Wrong that is standing and without the plaintiff having standing there is no case.

  • sfmc98

    The guy who filmed this is dead wrong. People need to take a page out of Jeff Gray’s book and simply clarify the order, and comply under protest.

    If you get pulled over near your house, you don’t have a “home base” privilege. And you certainly have no right to fully refuse to get out. The cops actually showed patience here, probably more than he deserved.

    • anan

      Failing to comply quickly is not reason enough to use violence. Violence may only be used if the officer is in fear of his life or the life of others. I see nothing that he did that warrants violence. And you are glossing over the fact that the police officer lied on the incident report. The cop needed to invent a fact to justify ordering him out of the car.

      • sfmc98

        Violence may only be used if the officer is in fear of his life or the life of others.

        That isn’t the case. Officers and civilians alike can use reasonable and necessary force to make an arrest. If someone verbally refuses to submit to the arrest then reasonable force is allowed. The standard is not about life being threatened.

        Similarly, if you are in my house and refusing to leave, I can push you out even if my life isn’t threatened.

        As for the report, if he lied or exaggerated, he should be fired.

        • anan

          You are dead wrong. You cannot lay your hands on another individual, even if they are in your home and they refuse to leave if they are not a threat to you or your family. If you want them gone, you must call the police. Only the police can use FORCE to remove or arrest someone. Force is not the same thing as violence (head and body blows). Force may be used against a non cooperative person that is being arrested. If the person is not using violent resistance, there is no justification for the use of violence on them. This has been upheld by case law time and again.

          http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/police-dash-cam-video-exonerates-nj-man-implicates-cops-article-1.1701763

          • sfmc98

            Only the police can use FORCE to remove or arrest someone.

            The police do not have special rights. Any person, police officer or not, may use reasonable and necessary force to make an arrest.

            But your standard of “life being threatened” is false.

            The cops in the story you linked to are horrible, deserve prison and did not use reasonable and necessary force.

          • anan

            Cops do have special rights. Try laying your hands on a cop that is on your property and see what happens.

            Reasonable force does not include punches to the head for someone that is resisting without violence.

  • War Bird

    The best part is where the uncooperative driver finally agrees to get out of the car but right before doing so reaches down and away from the officer to get his cellphone. Smart move, what’s a cop going to think when some uncooperative motorist finally decides to get out but starts reaching for something between the seats right before hand?
    Then after he gets a few scrapes he goes for ‘treatment’ at the VA hospital? Our tax dollars at work.
    Oh wait, it was also funny when he injects the story about how he was out buying a pizza and why, well shit if you are buying a pizza because you have a 5 month old and your wife doesn’t like taking care of the baby and cooking for your lazy ass then by all means spend the night in jail and a hundreds of dollars in fines because you are a smart ass.
    That was one expensive pizza for him. Remember, buying a Pizza Is Not A Crime.

    • LibertyEbbs

      Hmmmmmmm…do say more.

    • TheronC

      Why this intense need to defend the cops however awful they are?

    • godlessmath

      “Smart move, what’s a cop going to think when some uncooperative motorist
      finally decides to get out but starts reaching for something between
      the seats right before hand?”

      That would be a good point, except that they knew he was reaching for his phone, and they quite clearly knew that is for what he reached. Listen to the cop, he says “put your phone down.”

  • NJHC

    This is a great example of why not to vacation in Florida. I recall back in the early 80’s police attacking, beating, and robbing tourists on vacation. There’s a reason, besides DHS, that Florida has lost it’s tourism dollars from Europe- people are afraid of being attacked and held up while on vacation.

    Don’t spend your vacation budget in Florida, go somewhere that people are friendly and respectful, and that isn’t in Florida.

  • Boko Hos

    This officer is making an illegal stop and there isn’t any question about that. He’s just a liar making up stories so he can search the car and the occupant. Even if this guy had complied, his rights would have been violated, in one fashion or another.

    • Pizza Is Not a Crime

      Why would you come to the conclusion the cop made an illegal stop? Curtis was stopped for speeding and swerving. Probably in a hurry to get that pizza home to the hungry little woman.
      Even the little woman told Curtis to stop being a stupid dolt but Curtis was too smart for all that. So far he’s blown $2000 just on the attorney to get the charges knocked down from a felony. He was even offered a diversion program but thought he could scrounge up some donations online and make some dough off the Michael Brown case. Just another poor black man abused by the police for doing nothing wrong except for trying to bring home a pizza.

      Pizza Is Not a Crime
      Thank goodness for PINAC bringing us these compelling stories about people’s rights to pizza being abused.

      • Boko Hos

        So I guess you felt that justice was served. Moron. A cop acting like this and you believe that he was speeding and swerving. Are you looking for some ocean front property… cheap?

      • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

        “…Curtis was stopped for speeding and swerving….” Inaccurate, but since there’s no proof, I guess you can have this one.

        “… So far he’s blown $2000 just on the attorney to get the charges knocked down from a felony…” Charges were knocked down before I hired the attorney.

        “…but thought he could scrounge up some donations online and make some dough off the Michael Brown case…” Nice assumption bro. GFM was a last resort. I turned down the diversion program because accepting it requires me to admit guilt. If I felt I was guilty (I don’t) I would have just taken the program (offered to me before I retained the lawyer and WAAAY before the Brown incident).

        I appreciate your input, though. It helps me get a glimpse of what the jury would think. Thank you.

  • Boko Hos

    Just another cop that needs to be dragged behind a pickup truck for a few miles.

    • Pizza Is Not a Crime

      Are you volunteering?

      • Boko Hos

        Sure. I need some practice though. Would you like to volunteer to be on the end of the rope?

  • Boko Hos

    Get out the cah. I’z be wantin’ to search and shit.

  • putaro

    See, if he’d been a pregnant woman the cop would have just tased him instead of waiting for him to get out.

    I have a problem with him getting beat up but I also have a problem with his written narrative not matching what happens in the video.

    He says the cop doesn’t tell him why he pulled him over when the cop goes through a long list of reasons (driving erratically, etc)

    And if you’re getting pulled over for a traffic stop, driving into the parking lot of a parking complex (when the officer has no way of knowing why you’re going there) isn’t normal behavior.

    At the same time, the cop sounds like someone trying to deal with a 2 year old and failing. Nothing has happened that requires arrest other than the challenge to the officer’s authority.

  • Lt. Redacted, USMC (ret)

    All I want to donate to is the reward fund for the arrest and prosecution of that goddam thug who beat up a Marine!!!

  • Рон Джамин

    We need a searchable database that allows us to search geographical locations, abuses, and officers names and addresses.

  • Pizza Is Not a Crime

    Moron kids decides he doesn’t have to do what he is told and is asking the public to bail out his family for his stupid actions? Naturally the owner of Pizza Is Not a Crime leaves out a few minor details from the begging page, misstates the reason for the arrest and wrongly tries to correlate the initial fear from the moron revving his engine with the arrest.
    If anyone knows how to donate condoms instead of cash I’d like to help save the world from Curtis having more children.

    • kraz

      File under troll.

      • Boko Hos

        And MORON. He believes what the cops claimed , after having watched this.

    • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

      >implying the officer’s report was in any way accurate. Gr8 B8 M8!

  • kraz

    STOP FUCKING CALLING THEM SIR! FFS! I have been saying this since the mid 90’s. I am so tired of watching people get their asses kicked or their rights violated while they keep referring to them as sir. You are just playing into their power trips. Please stop calling these gang members sir. If you have ANY self respect you will stop.

    • Insert witty name here

      Exactly! Calling them ‘sir’ obviously doesn’t keep you from getting your rear-end handed to you by these out of control psychopath’s.

  • BabbaZee

    Michelle Cusseaux, 50, was shot at her apartment at Clarendon and 55th avenues after she threatened a police officer and three other officers with a hammer, authorities said. The officers said they were serving a court order to transport the woman to an in-patient mental-health facility at the request of her mother when the woman met them at the door with a hammer.
    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2014/08/16/phoenix-shooting-family-questions-police-force-abrk/14176405/

    • BabbaZee

      yet another story illustrating why one should NEVER call the cops for “help”

      • kraz

        Hopefully people will eventually get it. Until then they are going to keep losing family members and loved ones.

  • Mike TheVet

    Submit a FOIA request to get the audio/video of the officer’s dash cam, if it exists.

    I’m sure you’ve already submitted a formal complaint.

    • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

      There are no dash cams. I asked. Only the DUI unit cruisers use them (according to my lawyer), If it were there, I wouldn’t have needed to post this video.

  • Pizza Is Not a Crime

    My favorite movie
    Pizza Crime
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0675070/

    My favorite book
    Pizza Bomber: The Untold Story of America’s Most Shocking Bank Robbery
    http://www.amazon.com/Pizza-Bomber-Americas-Shocking-Robbery/dp/0425250555

    My favorite kickstarter campaign
    ARMED & DELICIOUS — a novel about love, crime and pizza.
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/armedanddelicious/armed-and-delicious

    My favorite website
    Pizza Is Not a Crime – by esteemed pizzapologist Carlos Miller

    • Spaminator

      The obvious spam is obvious

    • Pragmatic Liberaltarian

      This is better. Shows a little effort.

      • Rail Car Fan

        @ “Pragmatic Liberaltarian”…

        Yes… but one must live a real dull life if all one thinks about is pizza.

        Rail Car Fan

  • Cortez

    He’s lucky to be alive. USSA Storm Troopers are psychopaths roaming the streets trying to fill their daily “kill quotas.”

  • Daniel Wood

    That cops was an out of control dickbag…BUT…if an out of control dickbag orders you out of the car, legally you have to. I don’t agree with it, I think it’s bullshit, but the courts have ruled that cops can order drivers out for ‘officer safety reasons’. I’ve never seen a video that ended well where the driver was ordered out and refused to go. If it happens you should roll your windows up, get out, lock the door, and shut it. And, of course, keep recording and refuse consent for all searches.

    • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

      “…If it happens you should roll your windows up, get out, lock the door, and shut it…”

      Believe me, If it were any other cop, I absolutely would have, but this cops demeanor sent all kinds of signals to me and I knew, whether I cooperated immediately or not, I was going to get hurt.

  • Fedup

    Thank god that cop was black or this would have summoned Jackson and Sharpton like a dog in heat.

  • WesTexan

    I’m constantly amazed at the willful surrender (comments to the effect) of our 4th Amendment rights. So many comments are, in themselves, a surrender of constitutional rights.

    Just because the cop makes a demand or a judge backs him up, does not make it legal. And if you tell me that only a judge is smart enough or qualified to interpret the Constitution, than there’s no bigger fool! Judges are the front men for this fascist regime. They’ve practically rewritten the Constitution to give government as much power over us as possible. Nevertheless, the Constitution—as written—is the law of the land, regardless of who screws with it.

    For example, no knock warrants are constitutionally illegal, but judges give cops the go ahead. Many innocents have been seriously injured and murdered as a result. The Patriot Act, especially as it is being applied today, is constitutionally illegal. Unfortunately, too many Americans sheepishly nod their heads and bow to the destroyers of our freedoms.

    If you’ve never read Amendment IV, here it is. Contrast the words here with what Americans are being submitted almost daily.

    Amendment IV

    “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place
    to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

    A driver is secure within his person, home—and his car. If the driver is suspected of or observed committing a crime, the officer must acknowledge that if he expects cooperation. If a cop cannot or will not answer that simple question, there can be no expectation of full cooperation.

    I’ve always asked—as I’m retrieving my license and insurance information to hand to the cop, “What did I do?” Polite cops many times begin with, “Do you know why I pulled you over?” My answer is yes or no. If no, they’ve always explain clearly the reason for the stop. So far, I’ve not had the problem Curtis had. I hope I never do, but if I do, I will act according to my Constitutional rights rather than some bully’s demands.

    • PINAC Troll

      Could you make it any longer. Were talking about a pizza here.

    • Brian Wirth

      You seem to be interpreting the Amendment as “You don’t need to comply with a lawful order.” Also remember this person willfully obstructed his license plate, purposfully backed his car into a parking spot so as to point his vehicle towards the officer, we also don’t know what happened before he turned on the camera. The driver rightfully had his window to a decent level, BUT refused to exit his vehicle as requested, which IS a lawful order. While getting out of the vehicle the driver then reached back into the car to grab his phone, which is a red flag to an officer that the driver may be reaching for a weapon, therefore defensive measures were taken. In-fact the proper measures as the officer could have just as easily drew his weapon, and even shot this kid for being stupid. Being ordered out of your vehicle does not fall under the 4th Amendment, and even if you make the argument that it does, the officer had probable cause due to the car being backed into the spot, as if the driver was trying to hide something.

      I don’t agree with everything that the officer did, but I can tell you that this kid did most everything the wrong way.

      • WesTexan

        I tend to agree with your assessment in this case. By the time a cop arrives at my window, which I roll down, I have all the pertinent documents on the dash and my hands on the wheel.

        However, based on a “lawful order” may not always be a lawful order. Too often these days, cops routinely hide behind that statement as if anything they say is a lawful order. Many times it is not. If I know for a fact that it is not a lawful order, I do not have to comply. “Just because I say so,” isn’t law.

        Many posted videos demonstrate exactly what I’m referring to. When a driver begins to calming quote the law in the face over an over-zealous cop, it’s interesting to see how many times the cop begins to back off while trying to save face. A real, well-trained cop will not violate his oath of office.

      • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

        “.. willfully obstructed his license plate…” I’m sorry, what? Where in the video did you see me obstruct my plate? I back into my spot because there are children playing in the lot by day, It’s much easier to see them in front of my car than behind it.

        “…BUT refused to exit his vehicle as requested, which IS a lawful order…” It’s only a lawful order if the encounter is lawful, “because I wanted to” is not a lawful order, but I can’t prove that.

        “…which is a red flag to an officer that the driver may be reaching for a weapon…” Sure, but in this case, the officer knew it was a phone. He literally said “Man, put your phone down!” Granted, of all the orders I was given, this should have been the one I should have obeyed. It would have caught much more of the situation that would have been valuable to the case.

        “…In-fact the proper measures as the officer could have just as easily drew his weapon, and even shot this kid for being stupid…” That. That thinking right there is why I didn’t want to get out of the car.

        “…the officer had probable cause due to the car being backed into the spot, as if the driver was trying to hide something…” See point 1. Also, read the GoFundMe. You don’t have to donate, I see you’re against my actions. But on there, I typed out that officer’s police report. Have a look, then make your decision,

        • Brian Wirth

          Just because you normally back into your spot means nothing. You knew you were getting pulled over, you then made the effort to back into your spot instead of pull over like a normal person. This is seen as obstruction. Like it or not.

          A police officer after pulling you over has the lawful right to have you step out of the vehicle. It has nothing to do with the stop being lawful or not.

          He knew that particular object was a phone, however you set the phone down in the center console, you could have been reaching for something near the phone. This was your fault for putting it down in the first place.

          If you would have gotten out of the car when first ordered to do so, the situation MAY not have been escalated. Again though, it escalated because of your poor knowledge of your rights and how to handle a police stop. I repeat, this video is an example of how not to handle it. You did nothing correctly.

          You can type out all you want, until there is a scanned copy it means nothing. I can type up a report too and make it appear any which way i choose.

          If you want to challenge the cops fine, I support that in every way. But I suggest you learn the proper way of doing things first. Instead of acting like a 13 year old when confronted by an officer maybe next time you can use common sense an avoid antagonizing them.

  • GunstonHall

    I’m not a lawyer, but I suspect that if the police tell you to exit your car, you’d be wise to do so. Eventually that is what this man did, even though for awhile he did decline to do so. But when he did what the police officer demanded, he got the beating he feared. At least this is not a racial issue, the cop was black and so was the young man. It does demonstrate the brutality of the police. Race makes no difference, the police will prey on us all. No one is safe.

    • Warren Browning

      You can refuse to exit. Trust your instincts on these matters. If you fear for your safety, have a supervisor dispatched to the scene. If you still feel threatened, have the state police get involved.

  • Navy Mom

    My blood is boiling right now!!!! I am the mother of a 19yr old Navy Corpman and these are the type of things that I worry about every day! It just makes me so angry!!!! And if I saw the video correctly, it looked like that officer was a black man…and if anyone should understand this young mans fear, it should be him. Not that I’m saying he should show favoritism or treat people of color any differently but just try and be a teenie bit compassionate to the situation because it is no secret of what our young African American boys are having to go through just because of the color of their skin and unfair stereotypes put upon them. So that officer better pray that this unfair policy changes in the near future and pray that if he has children that it is female because if not…hmm KARMA IS A BITCH!
    And I hope that young man files charges. Know this…even if you don’t win your case, that complaint will follow that officer wherever he goes and if he gets enough of them, it may not get him fired but you can best believe that it will deter him from getting advancement and it will definitely affect his WALLET!!! Tax payers shouldn’t have to pay for JERKS to get raises!

  • harleyxx

    Another lying POS Florida cop. When I was growing up my dads best friend was a cop and I had deep respect for them. Now. I have nothing but disgust and hate for these criminals with badges. They deserve no respect or honor. I taught my kids never to trust a cop, never to turn your back on one and to always record any encounter if possible.

  • harleyxx

    The law sucks. If you get attacked by a cop you have no right to defend yourself, even if he is violently assaulting you. This cop deserved a bullet right between the eyes for attacking this man.

  • Insert witty name here

    Well you not getting out of the car for fear of your safety was definitely justified. They did exactly what you thought, and expected they would do. These are not cops, these are gang members with a badge.

  • j zac

    Once again, the police overstep the boundaries. I’m getting tired of seeing this. They should try doing their job and maybe the crime rate will go down. What a bunch of scum bags.

  • LiberalFascist

    I have lived all over the U.S. east coast. Currently se. Florida. St Pete cops are the worst. Even more violent, rude, and arrogant then the old NYC T.N.T (tactical narcotics taskforce) of the 80’s and 90’s
    Most of these cops would have been right at home in the SS working at the local concentration camp

  • Jo Se

    Sue. Sue. SUE!!!

    • Al Simpson

      For what, what, WHAT!

      Failure to obey a lawful order to exit a vehicle and reaching for something between the seats as they are hauling you out of your car equals nothing. He can’t find an attorney to take the case on contingency because he doesn’t have a case.

      • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

        I have an attorney, we’ve been putting the case together for months. We do have a case, it’s just hard to prove without video capturing the officer actually saying “because I wanted to” when the stop was questioned. If I had that, I wouldn’t need to prove my case.

  • caribu

    so what has happened since then?
    Any lawsuit police complaint?

    • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

      My lawyer has advised against a complaint for now. If I though a lawsuit would help, I would definitely go down that rout as well. Here’s the thing with suing the police department; they are funded by the state/city, who in turn are funded by us, the taxpayers. Sure I could file a suit and get a few pennies from the city’s pocket, but who REALLY pays for that lawsuit? I would rather get money from taxpayers voluntarily. Why force people who don’t even support me to pay for the fuckups of the SPPD?

      I would be much more satisfied getting the PD to drop the charges and discipline the officers, but there’s a slim chance of that happening.

      • Ito H

        You won’t get pennies for filing a lawsuit, you won’t get anything. Is it that hard for you to understand that you disobeyed a lawful order to exit the vehicle and at that point the police have the legal right to forcibly extract you from the vehicle and arrest you?

  • Guest

    Carlos, here’s a video of the Secret Service attempting to block and intimidate a photographer from filming Michael Obama walking in public

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bn6rQGaWw0

    • Boko Hos

      Michael Obama.lol

  • rtwjr

    I just received a return call from Mike Peutz, Public Relations St. Petersburg PD regarding this video. Very professional and courteous disscussion. “Two sides to every story, etc. etc.”

    Though there has been much second guessing going on here at PIC after the fact, the incident non-the-less is appalling on its face. That said, it doesn’t appear there is much more the PD is going to do about it unless Mr. Shannnon is willing to file a complaint. I don’t know why he hasn’t.

    • Art Simpson

      There is no money in filing a complaint, there is the potential for money if you put up a begging post on GoFundMeForBeingStupid.

      • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

        The “GoFundMeForBeingStupid”, as you call it, was a last resort for us. We’ve spent all we could and now it’s gotten to the point where we can’t anymore. I didn’t file a complaint because my lawyer asked me not to. Doing so makes the prosecution more aggressive and makes it tougher to fight the case. I’m not buying shiny bling and partying with these donations, I’m supporting my family. I didn’t say “HEY COP, BEAT ME UP SO I CAN SUE!!”. if I can get SPPD to drop the case completely, then so be it. It took 8 months of scraping together paychecks for me to get to this point, so don’t make it seem like I’m just here wagging my tail asking for scraps because I’m some leech. I’m supporting my family by any means necessary. So if that means “begging” as you call it, so be it.

        But you knew that already, you’re one of those who know everything.

        • Ito H

          You don’t seem bright. You have zero chance of winning a lawsuit and I’m certain your lawyer has already told you that. If there was a potential for winning your lawyer would have taken the case on contingency.

          You came up with the plan after realizing the Michael Brown case might garner you some sympathy. I sympathize with your wife and child, you are hopeless. A man accepts responsibility for his mistakes and moves on, you are no man.

  • NotSheep

    Have you ever seen a small animal that has been abused and beat by its owners? They are timid, afraid, nervous, and don’t listen to voice commands. The entire population of the USA is becoming like an abused puppy, nervous, afraid, and do not listen to commands (legal or not). You can’t really blame a young man in the USA for being afraid of a traffic stop, they are the proverbial beaten puppy next door, with too many violent interactions with their “owners”, to respect any other authority, so every time you see a young man on video get pulled down by vicious attacks you can pretty much be assured that the next person might not want to listen. Your militarized police have done this to your country, prepare for things to get MUCH worse before they get better.
    Good luck out there, have a lawyer on speed dial, and record everything with a smile.

  • ratchetrandy

    Its so weird when people say “well don’t be a dick to the police then this won’t happen”. These cowards have allowed the police to shift the goal posts so far that they think the police by nature of being police have innate rights to abuse their power if they feel they are being disrespected. Show me where in our constitution or in any penal code where an officer has the right to attack you because you are being a dick. I’ll wait.

    Police get off on the power of being able to do whatever they want with impunity because of the badge on their shirts and the fact that they can radio for backup. They know the game, they can write a report any way they want to justify whatever they do to you. “Reckless driving, etc” whatever they want. And people are actually okay with this. Some of you people are fucking cowards.

  • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

    Hey guys, I’m the guy in the video. I’ve been reading the comments and I’ve seen three questions asked a lot.

    1: Why didn’t you get out of the car? I knew from the moment the officer pulled behind me I was getting pulled over. How would I know that? The WAY he pulled behind me says a lot. When I pulled into my parking spot, he asked for my information, put he did it from his car (quite a bit away from what you can see in the video). I knew I was being set up for some BS from the get go. No way I was going to volunteer for this ass whooping. I guess you had to be there to experience it all.

    2: Why did you drive so long before pulling over? The distance from where he flashed his lights at the corner of MLK S and 22nd Ave S to my apartment complex is less than a tenth of a mile. It is also very well lit and off the road, something I heard officers prefer.

    3: Why did you wait so long to post this video? The recording was never meant to be a social media video. I knew I would need video proof to defend my case. Word vs Word in court always ends in the officers’ favor. Granted, I should have started the video when he started the lights, but I was driving. Last thing I need is for him to say I was texting too. The video is up now so that the people who visit my GoFundMe can see that I’m not just making things up. They can see everything that they could before making their decision. We spent all our money (which wasnt much to begin with since we just moved to ST Pete) on retaining a lawyer and leaving the county. Doing so extended my daily commute from 2 miles to 38 and it’s starting to take its toll.

    I apologize for the vertical recording,btw. I know you guys hate that, but like I said, this wasn’t meant to get this far. If you have anymore questions, (keep it mature) comment on the youtube page, I’ll get to as many as I can.

    • inthewind

      I wish you & yours the best in the foregoing! Prayers are a given

    • sfmc98

      Here’s the deal, man. If you ever want to win against the cops, you won’t do it by making up your own rules. When you’re told to get out, no matter how unfair, you have to get out. You make it clear you are doing so under protest and threat of violence.

      Also, you should never reach back in the car like that. You’re dealing with hypersensitive guys with guns wanting to “make it home to my family each night.”

      Fight the battle and win in court as opposed to fighting on the street and losing in court later.

      • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

        To your first point, I understand completely, but like I told many others, if you had seen the way he pulled be hind me before the lights and how he got out of the car after I stopped, you would have been reluctant as well. I’ve encountered police many times. NYPD loves to play the “Hey you! Watcha doin there?” game. Even they, with their stellar reputation, never gave me that sick to my stomach feeling when we made eye contact.

        To your second point, I realize the phone would have been better off in the car. However, at the time, I assumed they would get their hands on it and delete the video. The officer knew immediately it was a phone, he even says to leave it in the car (again, I should have).

        If I had as much faith in the legal system as you, I may have done what you would have. I do value your opinion though, opposing views help me get a glimpse of all the things the jury might think, if it ever gets that far.

        • sfmc98

          Thanks for explaining your point of view. I appreciate your willingness to hear others out. Good luck.

  • Police are PIG SH1T

    Blayne, the fact your justify this in any way is just appalling to me. You’re not required to roll your window down all the way, he offered his License and registration to the officer. Police have boundaries to their authority. maybe when you get the sh** beat out of you you’ll change your statement, you’re probably a cop so hopefully you lose your job soon.

  • Rogue cops cost us money

    No racial profiling here just an Black asshole cop. Being an asshole cop come in all kinds.

    • steveo

      no, just So. St Pete, don’t go there after dark.

  • chewieb

    The cops attitude was piggish, but he was in the right, and the driver was acting like he was looking for trouble. He got it. There’s no story here.

  • joe mama

    Respect? please….The officer was on the clock, therfore the last time I checked HE was suppose to be respectful and courteous. That piece of tin doesn’t grant extra rights in the BURG… Sooner or later people will ban together to demand more from their “local municipality” and they will get it! I hope FDLE see’s this video, cause this is way outta police SOP… The victem needs to hire a bad ass attorney who doesn’t take shit from the “man”…Trust me the SPD has an insurance policy for situations just like in the video.. Google “St pete riots”

  • CheetahWhizerd

    John Bad Elk vs U.S…
    Look it up.
    Because We The People do not implement this ruling, these types of incidents are becoming, and will continue to become more frequent and more harsh.
    “Because I felt like it.” is not probable cause or reasonable suspicion. Everything after the officer said that becomes unlawful.

  • LaDonna Kinney

    I have 2 issues with this but first I’d like to say he had every right to not roll down his window more than needed to pass his registration and license out. That pissed the cop off. My problem is why did he wait so long to inform the St. Petersburg police and file a complaint and why does he need to set up a fundme acct. I see both sides being wrong. I’ve lived in the Pinellas county area all my life and things like this are very rare unless provoked. I’ve never seen bully police in our area being called out on video. Not saying their aren’t bully police in that dept, but being he wasn’t recording from the beginning their may be more to this story

    • James M Morriss

      His narrative seemed reasonable and not out of line. The cops can’t have it both ways; they tell people to turn on their flashers and proceed to a well lit place, they can’t bitch about it when we do.

  • fed-up-with-em

    Some cops are meatheads … dead from the neck up…and these certainly proved it

  • ;sda;slkl

    “horrifying video…???” hardly…

    • MyhandisaDOLPHIN

      I agree, It’s not like I was shot.

    • Carlos_Miller

      I guess you’ve never been in that situation.

  • Me Mee

    What a drama queen that so called Marine is. The Cop told him “Erratic Driving” was the reason he was pulled over. Probably texting while driving because the driver clearly stated he “Was NOT from around here”. He’s looking for TM payday without the GSW! lol

  • Me Mee

    That picture and the scratches look like they came from a CAT…lmfao

  • Me Mee

    The winter nights in FLA can get SOOOOOO cold, right? Yet you were NOT wearing a jacket. Where were the “Weather Conditions in FLA” that day/next day. OH SOOO COLD!

    Weather Forecast: December 26, 2013

    Dec 26, 2013 5:57 PM CST, Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:57 PM EST

    Dec 27, 2013 5:57 PM CST Friday, December 27, 2013 6:57 PM EST

    By Molly Rosenblatt, Meteorologist/Traffic –

    Expect increasing cloud cover and rising rain chances for the upcoming weekend. For your Friday, we’ll be running a few degrees above average for this time of the year, climbing into the mid 70’s under mostly cloudy skies with about at 30% chance for some showers. Better rain chances are on tap for Saturday and Sunday with temperatures climbing close to 80. It’s looking cooler and drier for the New Year.

  • RegularWriting

    This article has been linked to the News Feed:

    http://www.regularwriting.com/2014/08/news-feed-40/
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  • Cynthia Robinson

    McGregor (TX) Police repeatedly harrassed my son, Joshua, from age 13 on……until he was found dead in Amsler Park on Feb 16, 2006, at the age of 19!
    With no investigation, McGregor deemed his death a Suicide; I knew my son wouldn’t take his own life. I accidentally discovered that the last person to see Joshua alive, was a McGregor officer, at 1AM in Amsler Park! McGregor stated that they had no clue as to what I was talking about, when I asked them. To this day, 81/2 years later, I have no answers as to which officer nor what transpired.
    Four of the officers, on scene, resigned 3 months after Joshua’s suspicious death and the former chief ‘suggested’ that I relocate.
    I contacted Stephen Foster, Texas Ranger/Waco, to request an investigation. I was denied, twice. As of 2008, 2 years after Joshua’s death, Foster became Chief of Police in McGregor, retiring from the Rangers @ 50. Coincidence?
    I still fight for truth & justice. Having said that, my son was white.
    http://www.realcrimes.com/Robinson/Robinson.htm

  • Uncle_Meat

    You cops are all going to be hunted down and eliminated. Hope you enjoy your paychecks.

  • Swannyww

    Cops get promoted by felony arrests not traffic stops. They try to turn a simple traffic stop into a felony, and in this case will be sued and the taxpayers will pay the bill for a cop who can’t do his job correctly.

  • Djizle

    that guy did all he could withing his rights. that officer was totally out of line and should be fired. police are completely and utter out of control in this country. dozens of officer get away with murder every single day. they shoot , tazer, punch, or kick first and fabricate Probably cause after the arrest 90% of the time. also 95% of all police abuse there power at least once a month. 75% several to dozens of times a month. that being around 85% of police are corrupt. police should be held to all laws even fiercer than regular citizens, unfortunatly thats not the case in this corrupt country. our ENTIRE justice system is completely broken and corrupt. if you dont have money your guilty even if your innocent. this are not assumptions these are pure fact. i to have been arrested with false as well as trumped up charges. i have even taken polls at the courthouse dozens of times while fighting my cases which proved that the research is true. we now like a a police state , we have no freedom , are constitution has been shredded to pieces. now dont get me wrong there are some good cops, but so few in numbers its pitiful. i cannot wait till i leave this country and get permanent residency in my soon to be new country so i can re-nounce the american citizenship i used to be so proud of and is now something to be ashamed of. once i leave this country i will only ever return to visit family and nothing more and i will not do so until im no longer a us citizen.

  • prolifeconservative

    I wouldn’t have got out of the car. Screw that cop!

  • Martin Luffa

    Why does the cop sound like some dirtbag pavement monkey?

  • prolifeconservative

    Lawsuit time!

  • James Michael

    I keep informing people that Florida cops are big dumb monkeys with tiny penis egos….and are psychopathic and they prove me absolutely correct all the time…and their courts are a cesspool of utter corruption also…. That is a fact not an opinion…They believe they are our unfettered massas and you will obey BOY or the massa will lay the whip to you….Why people aren’t shooting these psychopaths with badges and guns I have no idea…. They are liars, felons, extortionists, armed robbers…and kidnapper and brutal feral animals, with a very few exceptions…

    Mallowy v. Hogan, 378 U.S. 1
    “All rights and safeguards contained in the first eight amendments to the federal Constitution are equally applicable.”

    Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 426, 491; 86 S. Ct. 1603
    “Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no ‘rule making’ or legislation which would abrogate them.”

    Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425 p. 442
    “An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.”

    Sherar v. Cullen, 481 F. 2d 946 (1973)
    “There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights.”

    Simmons v. United States, 390 U.S. 377 (1968)
    “The claim and exercise of a Constitution right cannot be converted into a crime”… “a denial of them would be a denial of due process of law”.

    Warnock v. Pecos County, Texas., 88 F3d 341 (5th Cir. 1996)
    Eleventh Amendment does not protect state officials from claims for prospective relief when it is alleged that state officials acted in violation of federal law.

    My liberty to live my life as I see fit is not for sale or criminalizing…all of you boot licking morons can be a slave all you want…

  • Rick

    You are all seeming to miss the part where he said the cop tried to pull him over and he decided to drive to where he lived, Thats fleeing.

    • James Michael

      No it’s not….sheesh, where do you people come from?

    • Mike TheVet

      So did the man stop or not?

      Did the Officer use a PITT maneuver to stop the vehicle?

      Did the man not stop “fast enough” to merit a charge?

      Are you, yourself, an active PO/LEO?

  • disqus_lxhOkuBGvA

    It seems to me the only result of all this illegal behavior by the police including killings is a bunch of people coming out in FAVOR of the police. Am I missing something here? Any body who doesn’t understand why he never left the car immediatly is down right daft, how many people who did as told are now dead? It’s about time the US sorted out it’s police force, if the government won’t, then maybe the population need to start recording everything they do all day, and not give them a chance to hassle people.

  • Chris brunt

    This is a prime example where the cops think they can walk on water! They treat citizens like crap and have no reason to have that man open his window. He complied by handing his papers through the window and he should not have to be subjected to them treating him like that. I hope he sues the crap out of them. They are not professional and they need to retire.

  • Chris brunt

    Why did they tell him to exit the car? There was no reason. They were profiling and that’s a dam shame. The man in the car was proper and spoke well. He didn’t deserve to get told to exit the car. I would of called a news action team and had them video tape it from the street and then the cops wouldn’t over use or abuse there authority to be a police officer. I probably would have let him break my window. The cops here are dirty, they would probably set you up with drugs in your car just to screw you over.

  • Chad Helm

    Lawsuit! Jury Trial! No way you can lose.

  • Patrick

    The problem with this incident is the cop is a power hungry whore.. and doesn’t even deserve the respect from any US citizen. I hope he gets fired, sent to jail, and beaten like the USMC vet did. IF not give the man a chance a revenge.. Put them in a cage and let them go to town.

  • Charles Michael Haywood

    I would have posted bail, and waited for the cop to get of work followed him home,watched and waited till he was out of uniform and caught him leaving home and i would have beat the breaks off of him and then some!

  • Meepmeep

    Please identify the domestic terrorist who did this, if for not other reason than to see him denied service at businesses.

  • Peter Nolan Smith

    the pigs

  • circustrainer

    The cop lit this dude up and the driver kept driving a 1/2 block, with his flashers on, got to his apt bldg and then backed into his space and turned his lights out and then turned on his interior lights. If I was that cop Id be pissed he didn’t pull over ASAP. I think the driver got a beatdown for not showing respect for the red lights in his rear view mirror. IMHO. Why did the cop pull him over in the first place.? The driver is leaving that part out it seems.But, the cop is a doucebag for being a doucebag. The driver should have not talk to the cop and argued with him. He should have kept quiet and relied on the 5th amendment .

    • MongoLikesCandy

      You realize a half block is not all that far right? Ive pulled into a parking lot when getting pulled over before too. Honestly its safer than the side of the road sometimes.

  • DJ4060

    I was trying to figure out why this has not made the local news let alone national, and then someone pointed out to me that the cop was Black. This does not fit the media agenda of inciting racial tensions so it’s not going to go viral. If the cop was white it would have made national headlines. I hope the victim sues the crap out of the City. And I really wish someone would please post the cops name.
    Thanks

  • A. Crusader

    was there a conclusion to this case?

  • Straight_Shooter

    Maybe that cop needs a serious beat down when he is off duty. But make sure it’s by some bruthas so it wont be label white on cullerd crime

  • eastedie33510

    Hope he sues the St. Pete PD.

  • Elizabeth Conley

    “Officers” like this one are the problem. If they were promptly removed from service and retrained for a career that did not grant them authority over others, trust in police could be restored.

  • Donald McCoy

    I’d hunt the bastard down and disembowel him for his efforts. Screw these fuck tard cops killem all.
    Semper Fi

  • Carlos

    Refusing to get out of a vehicle is not a crime…..

  • Poco

    We need a new Justice Department that will do the right thing and procecute these abusive officers. Eric Holders not much of an Attorney General and has failed the American people’s trust just like Hussein Obama.

  • James Slattery

    I don’t know where to start. I guess Carlos wants people to go look up the report and file a public records request for the info on the officer.
    Why couldn’t Shannon ID the officer?
    I am supposed to go into the police station with no officer’s name, requesting a case from sometime in December, 2013, and with no case number.
    And then, after going through the trouble of looking up the officer’s info and poring over the records, and paying for the time of the people to get the paperwork, paying for copies and instead of being invited to call Carlos personally, I (or somebody) am just supposed to post it like a message in this forum.
    That isn’t going to happen.
    I live in St. Petersburg, and I am not going to invest one minute into doing anything until Shannon ID’s the officer. If he doesn’t have a problem with what happened to him, then it is unfair of Carlos to expect somebody else to go and invest the time in this project.
    (And then just post it somewhere below the story).

  • Jaime

    Well, they cannot force him to open his window….but they can legally make him step out of the car under current law when stopped. Would be nice to have a judge rule in this man’s favor though.

  • Nancy Chandler

    ANOTHER TERRIBLE STORY ABOUT POLICE ……….WHAT IN THE WORLD HAS THIS COUNTRY COME TO?

  • John

    Wow, he shouldn’t of been an ass asking for trouble by barely cracking the window. December in Florida weather is about the lamest excuse imaginable. Jeez I can’t believe people are giving him sympathy and do not show more respect for our police force. A rash from clothes issued and a couple of scrapes?! Ridiculous and now begging for money to help his family recover!!! Recover from what? Being a dumbass?

  • small dick Chris moskal

    fuckin cops nowadays are complete scum. make these tough cops go to Syria and fight isil of they’re so brave and tough. they’re the ones who choose their own profession.

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