Atlanta Cops Detain Man for Recording TSA Checkpoint


By now, everybody except TSA screeners and airport cops pretty much know we are legally allowed to video record TSA checkpoints at airports.

The policy has been clearly stated on the Transportation Security Administration website since at least 2008, which is when I first came across it, and has been modified over the years to make it shorter, clearer but, of course, to add a disclaimer that “taking photographs may also prompt airport police or a TSA official to ask what your purpose is.”

In the latest video, which was posted August 30, a man with two video cameras, including a Go Pro strapped to his head, decides to test out the policy by standing well away from a checkpoint and recording at Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport.

At 1:30 in the video, an Atlanta cop named S. Garono marches up to him in a frantic manner and tells him he is not permitted to do so.

That begins the tired-old routine of the cops firing off questions with the citizen refusing to answer them, prompting the cop to find his refusal suspicious.

In this case, the cop immediately got on his radio to call for the FBI.

The man recording, who goes by the Youtube username OccupyFromTheNorth, began shaking, which is something cops are trained to find even more suspicious, oblivious to the fact that nervousness is a natural reaction to being confronted by gun-wielding government agents legally allowed to kill you on the spot.

I’ve found that not drinking coffee prior to the confrontation as well as eating a full meal helps with the shakes in these situations, if you’re going to purposely test out their knowledge of the policy.

Despite his nervousness, he handled it well, even though he was eventually surrounded by several cops. He never showed his identification, even though he was eventually forced to show them his boarding pass.

However, he also apparently made them nervous because they had to shut down that particular checkpoint. They eventually allowed him to leave just before 13:00 in the video.

The rest of the video probably should have edited out but there is another minor interaction with the goon wearing a business suit in the initial confrontation after he started recording another checkpoint.

We’ve seen so many of these videos over the years that you would think somebody would just print the policy off the site and post it on a wall somewhere because it would save them from a lot of Youtube embarrassment.

So let’s try to record them any chance we get because eventually it will sink through.

About Carlos Miller

Carlos Miller is founder and publisher of Photography is Not a Crime, which began as a one-man blog in 2007 to document his trial after he was arrested for photographing police during a journalistic assignment. He is also the author of The Citizen Journalist's Photography Handbook, which can be purchased through Amazon.

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  • Rusty Gunn

    NEVER relent, keep boring in, know your rights and keep standing up for them.

    • Proud GrandPa

      Yes, this is true. The TSA appreciates your service. Whether one of us brings the camera or even if one of the TSA undercover staff plays the part of a photog, the result is the same. All the people in line that day are alarmed. They watch on hidden cameras to see what the others standing in line do.
      It is not about photography. That is part of the act.

      • wygent

        Proud GrandPa – If you are so frightened of a few rag-headed camel jockeys that you are willing to give up your children’s and grand-children’s rights to privacy and freedom from unreasonable search, I feel very sorry for your descendants. I would recommend that you move to some third world scheidt-hole like Viet-Nam or Myanmar or Yemen and see how much you love life without human rights. You will find that you are no safer there, but you are much less free. Don’t pretend that loss of freedom is necessary. It is only desirable for those who wish to increase their power and control.

  • Darksideblues42

    It does not fail to amaze me just how clueless the TSA people are of their own policies….

    Also, Carlos,I think this video went live on Aug 30th, not Sept 30th.

    • Carlos_Miller

      Yes, thanks for catching that. Just corrected it.

    • Proud GrandPa

      The TSA people know the law. That is why they don’t break it while creating maximum stress to flush out the real terrorists. Even yelling at an innocent but stupid photog (not this guy) may cause a real terrorist to panic and betray himself. The TSA are clueful, not clueless. They know. It is part of their schtick and it works.
      The courts allow them to do this panic drill because they don’t actually carry out their bluffs and threats. I don’t mind. I remember 9/11 and am glad we beat the bad guys.

      • putaro

        Dream. On. We didn’t beat the bad guys. They won. We gave up our freedoms to combat a non-existent threat. You should be old enough to remember how we used to laugh at the Russians and the Nazis with their “papers please” societies. Are you happy now to live in like they used to?

        • Proud GrandPa

          Respectfully I must disagree. The bad guys hated our religious free speech and out support of Israel, which is one of the few middle eastern nations allowing religious and political free expression.

          • Proud GrandPa

            The could not silence our voice. We can and do continue to proclaim a religious message that the moslem extremists hate and fear. We won.
            What is more the USA has won the hearts and minds of American moslems. They denounce the radical moslem terrorists. We won.

          • WithinThisMind

            The denounced the radical Muslim terrorists from the beginning. When are you going to denounce the radical Christian terrorists?

          • Bodinky100

            Are you serious? Are you that far gone? You need help, clinical help from a license psychiatrist!

      • Lisa Simeone

        “I remember 9/11 and am glad we beat the bad guys.”

        “The bad guys”?? What are you, 10 years old?

        • Badnblond

          Is this guy slightly retarded? Beat the bad guys?? Seriously, Is he really clueless as to who carried out 9/11? Smh How many like him are out there

      • Rail Car Fan

        Boy… talk about somebody living with rose colored glasses on. Is this guy real..!!..?

        Rail Car Fan

      • stk33

        > while creating maximum stress to flush out the real terrorists.

        There are no real terrorists, dude. Other than those who were intentionally set up by the FBI, plus 2-3 lone amateurs who were mentally unstable, not trained, and not affiliated with any organization, therefore unpredictable and uncapable of doing any real damage, nobody has materialized so far.

        > It is part of their schtick and it works.

        There were drills that showed that in as much as 70% TSA failed to detect hidden weapons. The “schtick” scares out only innocent citizens, but trained operative wouldn’t have a slightest problem at all. In fact, he would benefit from this theater, as from any distraction that turns attention away from the real threats.

        > I remember 9/11 and am glad we beat the bad guys.

        The only guys you “beat” is your own population. In many ways.

        • Proud GrandPa

          I beg to differ with you about the existence of real terrorists. In fact several minor and one major attempt at mass killing of Americans have been stopped.
          The files taken from Bin Laden house show the murderer was still scheming to kill us. Glad he failed. Sic semper tyrannis!

          • Bodinky100

            I realize now, your not a real poster. This is a joke, someone showing how utterly clueless someone could be. Very funny, good job, you came off as a real nut job!

          • WithinThisMind

            September 4, 2012
            Christopher Lacy, 36, shoots
            California Highway Patrol officer Kenyon Youngstrom at close range after
            the officer stops Lacy’s vehicle, which had an obstructed license
            plate, on I-680 near Alamo, Calif. Lacy is fatally shot by another
            trooper who responds to the scene. Youngstrom dies September 5. An
            investigation into Lacy’s background reveals a large amount of
            antigovernment “sovereign citizens” literature on several computers at
            his home.

            December 21, 2012
            FBI agents arrest
            Richard Schmidt, the owner of a sporting goods store in Bowling Green,
            Ohio, for trafficking in counterfeit goods and discover a cache of 18
            weapons in his home and store, including AR-15 assault rifles, 9 mm and
            Sig Sauer pistols and shotguns, and more than 40,000 rounds of
            ammunition. Schmidt is unable to own the weapons legally because he is a
            felon who served 13 years for murdering a Latino man and wounding two
            others in a 1989 traffic dispute. They also find evidence of Schmidt’s
            neo-Nazi views, including video and Nazi paraphernalia, and the
            Anti-Defamation League identifies him as a long-time member of the
            neo-Nazi National Alliance. And officials discover a notebook they say
            Schmidt was using to track Detroit area Jewish and African-American
            leaders, apparently as a prelude to some kind of attack. Schmidt is
            indicted in Toledo in January 2013 on three federal counts of
            possessing illegal firearms, body armor and ammunition, and one count
            of trafficking in counterfeit goods, and pleads not guilty.

            June 18, 2013
            Scott Crawford, 49, and Eric J. Feight, 54, are arrested in upstate New
            York after a year-long investigation and charged with conspiracy to
            provide material support to terrorists for use of a weapon of mass
            destruction. Crawford is a self-proclaimed member of the United Northern
            and Southern Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, based in Michigan, and an
            industrial mechanic with General Electric. Feight is an outside
            contractor for GE with mechanical and engineering skills. According to
            authorities, he and Feight, who call themselves “The Guild,” are well
            along the way toward building a truck-borne radiation weapon. The idea
            was that it could be parked in front of, say, a mosque and remotely
            triggered; victims would be hit with lethal doses of radiation but would
            not die immediately, allowing the killers to drive the truck away
            before any attack was detected. The pair allegedly wanted to target
            Muslims, as well an unnamed political figure and political party.
            Authorities say that Crawford, who allegedly referred to his enemies as
            “medical waste” and was angry at President Obama, tried to raise money
            to complete the device from Jewish groups and also the Loyal White
            Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, based in North Carolina. He also allegedly
            referred to his device as “Hiroshima on a light switch.” Both Feight and
            Crawford are denied bail. They face up to 15 years in prison if


            The face of terrorism in the US looks a lot like our own ‘proud grandpa’

      • Undecider

        What real terrorists?

      • Frodo

        If I’m a terrorist and I see the TSA patting down a toddlers, former vice presidents, senators, movie stars and the elderly I feel safe, because it clearly indicates to me that the TSA have absolutely no clue what they are doing.

      • Bodinky100

        What bad guys? Who exactly are you referring to as ” the bad guys” Are you one of those kook-aid drinkers who think 19 Muslim highjackers with box cutters pulled this off all by themselves with a sick bearded man with a kidney disorder orchestrating the whole setup from a laptop in a cave in the desert somewhere? Are you that far gone, because it kinda sounds like it bro, kinda coming off desperate!

  • Fotaugrafee

    Where’s Grandpa & his take on this? I get the feeling y’all will be sternly chastised for causing a scene again.

    Remember, old people don’t need to cause a scene, they just shit their pants & let it run down their pants cuff.

  • Unity Nowe

    Shaking : a natural response when you don’t know if you are going to be beaten, tased, or murdered, by authority, sir.

    • jcfromnj

      getting bum rushed by the un-employable is always an adrenalin rush !!!!

      • Proud GrandPa

        The shaking and bad case of nerves is the intended purpose. And the real terrorist is nervous enough already, so this riot act shakes some nuts out of the tree!

        • Ron Smith

          You are giving government employees FAR too much credit.

        • crazyassmofo

          All this video proves is that non-terrorists shake.

          • TheFlashingScotsman

            “I’m being accosted by an armed man who is not afraid to break the law.”

          • Tijuana Joe

            I think saying “I have a rare, violent form of epilepsy brought on
            by stress, please don’t exacerbate it.” might be in order here.

          • Proud GrandPa

            Close, but here is the truth:

            I’m being accosted by an armed man who WILL NOT break the law.
            I laugh at both sides in this farce. The clueless photog doesn’t get it. He thinks this is about him. He is a ploy, an unwilling tool used to run their game.
            I believe that sometimes when they don’t have a clueless photog, that one of the TSA plainclothesmen gets a camera and makes a scene possible. It is a scam, a cover incident, a ploy. So what? I laugh at the ease with which this works on terrorists.

          • Photog at Large

            >>I’m being accosted by an armed man who WILL NOT break the law. <<

            Surely after having viewed multiple videos on this site, I cannot believe anyone can still buy into the falsehood that being a LEO excludes them from breaking the law.

          • TheFlashingScotsman

            Yes, GrandPa, police officers are incapable of breaking the law, we’ve all seen that. We have plenty of evidence of that, on video, right here on this site. I started out here having some respect for you, but that’s going away fast.

    • Proud GrandPa

      They cannot do the acts you described without cause. There is zero chance they will. The goal is to make a lot of noise and intimidate the real terrorists. It works. They have no intention of causing harm.

      • Unity Nowe

        Okay, Proud Grandpa, 0 chance they will, eh?
        You are still living in the Andy Griffith days and obviously don’t keep up with all of the police violence and abuse.
        Let me share something. Cops ARE the “real terrorists”.
        Hopefully you are being sarcastic and are more aware than to believe that cops have no intention of causing harm. If not, hopefully, you don’t get out much where you might experience what I am saying as fact.
        Take care

        • Proud GrandPa

          You confuse local police with the TSA. There is zero chance the TSA will commit the illegal acts you describe.
          The US AG writes their policies to be just on the legal side and they rehearse them so that everyone knows when to back off. I applaud them for that. They are pretty clever!

  • jcfromnj

    Somebody at the Air Port needs to get a REAL JOB ! Well,it does keep them of the Welfare rolls, so that must be a plus….

  • thetruth33

    Plain & simple, the TSA is a colossal joke and a massive waste of taxpayer money.

    • Proud GrandPa

      A massive waste except when it works…

      • rick

        I agree! No child terrorist has succeeded yet!

        • Proud GrandPa

          In ‘Nam they hid bombs on the bodies of innocent children and sent to blow up our brave troops. The mind of evil has not changed… only the name of the evil has. Communist Nazi Muslim-Wahabee It is all the same underneath… hatred and death to those who dare say otherwise.
          I have no legal objection to randomly inspecting baby diapers to grandmothers. Safety is what counts…
          This is not about photog rights. As much of a pain as it may seem, this is part of the ‘new necessary’.

          • Proud GrandPa

            Edit to make it perfectly clear…

            Communist Nazi Muslim-Wahabee It is all the same underneath… hatred and death to those who dare say otherwise than what they demand you must believe.
            In the USA it is wonderfully lawful to think and say disagreeable things. Thanks be to God for the Christian founding fathers and the first amendment. In fact, PINAC has many examples of free speech. The gov’t may not censor our free speech.

          • Freedom_Fighter_of_America

            Yes, the name of the evil has changed, it’s changed to US Government

          • Lisa Simeone

            Proud GrandPa: baaaaa.

          • WithinThisMind

            In ‘Nam our soldiers raped prepubescent girls and burned non-combatants alive.

            What were you saying about ‘evil’ again?

      • NoelArmourson

        Has it ever worked? I’ve seen no success stories.
        Is it worth the loss of liberty?

      • David Lef

        That statement about “when it works” has never been tested as is has never worked.

  • NoFanOfTSA

    Are you required to show your boarding pass to police or TSA upon request once you’re in the secured area? Does anyone know where I can find regulations pertaining to this?

    • stk33

      I guess, since the airport is private business, they could talk about trespassing. If he didn’t have the pass, they probably wouldn’t arrest him at once, but they could issue permanent ban for him to enter airport grounds unless he has a business there, and escorted out.

  • Nowarsyria

    Thankfully the cops didn’t gun him down because he spoke to them, or was holding a camera.

    • Difdi

      It’s getting to the point where breathing might be seen as a furtive movement.

      • Proud GrandPa

        No, actually breathing is allow in airport yellow zones!

  • n4zhg

    This crap will stop when police chiefs grow a set and start using YouTube records as evidence for disciplinary action.

    • Proud GrandPa

      Actually this is the plan. The chief is doubtless acting upon orders from Washington. If he wants to keep federal aid flowing to his department, he will continue to cooperate.
      This is a drill designed to scare terrorists. Sadly we ordinary citizens are the unwilling participants cooperating in creating the scene.

      • Ron Smith

        Yeah I am sure that the terrorists are terrified when some photographer is hassled.

      • Lisa Simeone

        Yeah, GrandPa, because there are terrorists hiding around every corner. Sounds like you watch too many action flicks.

      • crazyassmofo

        In order for your statement to be true, then all ordinary citizens are considered a potential terrorist prior to being approached.

        And I do know this is exactly how DHS and law enforcement now view every ordinary citizen. Presumption of innocence does not exist.

      • stk33

        What terrorists, GrandPa? there ain’t any, except those manufactured by the FBI out of thin air.

        In fact, if there were any, they would be very happy that the attention of the guards is so successfully deflected by this theater. In fact, they would send one of them to pose as photographer, to draw the attention of a dozen of agents.

        • Proud GrandPa

          Do some research. The bad guys are still among us and still trying.

          • Lisa Simeone

            Oh, here we go again with “the bad guys.”

            Quick, somebody save me from those Big Bad Terroristy Guys!

          • WithinThisMind

            Over the last few years, the vast majority of terrorism in the US has been perpetrated by domestic right-wing groups. There is a face of terrorism in the US, and it’s funny how it looks just like you.

  • Phred

    “taking photographs may also prompt airport police or a TSA official to ask what your purpose is.”

    None of their frikkin business.

    • stk33

      … – will be your answer. But they may ask, it’s their own 1st amendment right.

      • Bill Gray

        This being the US of A with a First Amendment protecting freedom of speech, they have every right to ask whatever questions they wish. On the other hand, this is the US of A with a Fifth Amendment which recognizes our right to ignore those questions. “I am going about my lawful business” is more than enough of a response without being a useful answer for finding reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause. They can create a tense “mere encounter” with demanding questions and COMMAND VOICE but they are only questions and requests. “I don’t answer personal questions from strangers” and “I respectfully decline your request” will surprise them and leave them with little maneuvering room.

        • Proud GrandPa

          Exactly, and probably secretly they are pleased when a photog or other citizen so answers. In fact they agree.
          This is not about photog rights. It is a stress exercise to flush out bad guys.

          • Lisa Simeone

            How did “flushing out” those “bad guys” work out in Boston, GrandPa?

    • Proud GrandPa

      Exactly. They don’t really care about your camera. What they are doing is flushing out the real terrorists by a stress test.

      • Lisa Simeone

        “Flushing them out by a stress test.” Ha ha! You are a riot, GrandPa! The TSA couldn’t find a terrorist if one came up and bit them on the ass.

  • DavidVerner

    The guy that made the video here, the only reason there was no video edits was because I was traveling and my laptop finally died on me so I couldn’t do any simple editing. I had to barrow a friends computer just to upload the footage.

    I have a follow up video exactly one week later that I will be uploading soon which will include the TSA actually following me around the airport after I got done filming a second time. I also have video from me recording a few other TSA checkpoints going up also.

    • Proud GrandPa

      You can make all the videos you want. There is no basis for stopping you from doing so. You have unwillingly been involved in a routine ploy to flush out nervous passengers. I don’t enjoy it either, but the courts allow it up to the edge of the law.
      Still, well done to the photog. In other circumstances there really is an issue of photography freedom, but each of those must be won in court.

      • n4zhg

        In most states harassment is a criminal offense and cops can be charged. If the chain of command won’t deal with this, we will.

        • Undecider

          If the police are doing their job and being honest, there’s not much for harassment. Like the rest of us, for them, there should be no “expectation of privacy.” Especially as “public servants.”

  • DTM

    Another photographer/videographer American Patriot. Well done

    • Proud GrandPa

      It would be even more significant if this really were about photography! Read my notes to Carlos. This is just routine bluff. It is legal is don’t correctly and works.

      • Proud GrandPa

        Edit last: It is legal if done correctly and works

        • crazyassmofo

          How many examples can you give of a citizen photographing a TSA checkpoint and upon questioning by TSA was determined to be an actual terrorist as a result of that questioning?

          And three links to “alleged” anti-cop websites that you have claimed exist?

      • putaro

        Works for doing what? How many terrorists have been arrested?

  • jimmarch

    OK. This case is much more important than it appears at first glance because of the involvement of the Atlanta PD – who are under a court order not to do crap like this:

    In theory that means their “qualified immunity” on this class of idiocy at least (harassing camera-folk) is non-existent.

    I have put the guy in this case in touch with the lawyer who obtained the settlement in the previous case linked above (where somebody won $40k).

    • Proud GrandPa

      There was no TSA involvement in the link you gave. This really was a photog civil rights violation.

      • jimmarch

        In the latest case the problem started with the TSA but they got a strong “assist” from Atlanta PD – and that “assist” was barred by the previous court settlement I linked to.

        So Atlanta PD has a serious problem here and can be sued for potentially more than $40k.

        • n4zhg

          I would add another zero, cite the previous case, cite the restraining order, and demand that indemnity be removed. The cops knew or should have known, they should be on the hook for their personal assets. Then sue the city for failure to train and failure to supervise.

        • stk33

          But PD didn’t twist his arm, didn’t seize the camera, didn’t destroy the video, didn’t insist on producing the ID or giving any answers, and when he said if he was being detained, they clearly said “No”. Meaning that he could leave at any moment. Seems like the case wouldn’t have any grounds.

          • Proud GrandPa

            Good observations, stk33. You observed something that others missed. Congratulations upon your astute insight.
            It is obvious the US Atty Gen and TSA trained the Atlanta police on the proper limits of harassment. I am very certain this cop role-played this scenario many times before the TSA allowed the police to participate. It worked beautifully just staying legal.
            There will be no successful lawsuit or other responses. There cannot be as they are legal.

  • Proud GrandPa

    Carlos writes: “We’ve seen so many of these videos over the years that you would think somebody would just print the policy off the site and post it on a wall somewhere because it would save them from a lot of Youtube embarrassment.”
    Proud GrandPa replies in the affirmative. This is settled legally, but Carlos doesn’t know the real reason why they continue to respond in this manner. Want to know their secret?
    Firstly they already know current case law and the limits of their power. Education is irrelevant. The real reason they are doing this drill is that they are trained to. This is calculated to avoid an outright violation of law and yet create maximum stress. The goal is planned and executed the same way all over the world, not just in the USA. They want to provoke a violation of law by the real terror candidates.
    It works! It has saved innocent lives many times before. Waterboarding works too and have saved innocent lives, the difference being that the USA is still allowed to create hysteria among potential terrorists in hopes of panicking the real terrorists.
    I don’t relish this treatment at airports, but I understand it and have little problem with it. That’s the thing that Carlos didn’t know. Now we all do. Glad to be of help.

    • Proud GrandPa

      And another thing… If you could sit down at a lawyer’s conference table and show each TSA agent individually what the law and case law allow and require, their lawyers would laugh at you and agree. And if you were lucky, they would show you that they can lie, pretend to ignore the law, and create a noise. They would also show you the limits to their behavior and challenge you to show where they broke the law. You cannot, because they don’t. This is their routine. They are good at it.
      If you are baffled why these incidents keep happening with regularity, it is because they get results, the TSA rehearses them, and their legal staff wrote the script. . Our tax dollars at work… Explains why there are no more 911s. It is worth the pain.

      • Ron

        You give governmental employees FAR too much credit.

      • crazyassmofo

        It is true that this behavior continues because TSA is ordered to do so by superiors despite their website informing the public that it is okay to film checkpoints.

        They announce to the public that it is okay to film and yet internally form the policy that those who do film should be harassed as if they were a terrorist candidate.

        It is also true that this is done to provoke a violation of law by “real terror candidates”.

        Because a “real terror candidate” is anyone they want it to be, at any given time, under any set of circumstances according to their whim.

        • Proud GrandPa

          Partially correct, partially wrong.
          You need to study up on the subject of terrorism. Am glad to say that the TSA hassles have worked and will continue to do so with the approval of the legal system.
          Next video, please.

          • crazyassmofo

            They haven’t worked. Especially when the government is the one fast-tracking their patsy terrorist through security on the plane to stage a successful arrest to justify the existence of DHS and increasing their funding. You don’t know shit.

          • Lisa Simeone

            No, ProudGrandpa, you’re the one who needs to study up on terrorism. Since you apparently believe it’s something from a Road Runner cartoon.

      • Vidiot

        Please provide citations of all the terrorists that TSA has caught.

    • Lisa Simeone

      I wouldn’t be so proud if I were you, GrandPa, because your ignorance is showing.

    • Voice-Of-Concern

      I love how right wing nuts always want to bring up waterboarding like it was useful & therefore somehow not torture. Even though EVERY serious look at it acknowledges that it is absolutely torture. I can not respect the so-called moral values of anyone who supports the use of torture.

      The TSA is a joke. Expensive, intrusive, time wasting theater. It’s obvious to anyone old enough not to believe in the tooth fairy.

    • WithinThisMind

      —Waterboarding works too and have saved innocent lives—


  • stk33

    I wonder, if it was necessary to show them even boarding pass. The cop in the video says she does not need statute to request it. What if he refused? Would it be trespass (or some other offense) if someone goes to the airport just to film, without being a passenger?

  • Michael Sievers

    Hi! I am a cop. I have no clue what the law is that I am supposed to enforce. So I just make it up as I go. If you make any mamby-pamby remarks about your rights, I will see that as a threat to my authority and shoot you on the spot! RESPECT MY AUTHORTY!!!

    • StoneCold420

      F-ck your authority…………………………….J A C K A S S

  • Modres

    Carlos, in a situation like this, yes, I shake, but it is due to ANGER and the fact that I am being lied to and emotionally bullied.

  • Returning veteran

    In Iraq, the ragheads would send their own children into the street to make us stop, then open fire on our convoys when we halted. So all the people joking about searching children can go screw themselves, we lost 3 good men out there to that tactic.